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MADISON 09-01-2007 06:53

John W. Warner must go!
 
It seems that 80 year old John W. Warner will not run for re-election.
If I am correct, he has endorced every piece of ANTI-GUN legislation the gun haters have come up with, in the last few years.

I have not voted for Warner since he sent me an anti-gun letter in 1993. Who will get to replace him is questionable. Goode woooould be good.

DannyR 09-01-2007 20:33

Goode would be an illiterate disaster.

Gunboat1 09-01-2007 20:35

I'm hoping Jim Gilmore, or George Allen. Either would be great.

Fungunner 09-02-2007 05:59

As much as I like George Allen, and would vote for him, he would be painted with all the goofs and gaffes he made in the last election. I also think the people who ran his campaign should be sent packing.

Gilmore would be OK, he's wanting to run for el Presidente. This would give him a chance to get more name recognition.

Unfortunately, I think if the Dems got Mark Warner to run, he might be tough to beat.

Bonk 09-02-2007 07:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Fungunner
As much as I like George Allen, and would vote for him, he would be painted with all the goofs and gaffes he made in the last election. I also think the people who ran his campaign should be sent packing.

I agree with you completely. George Allen's active political future died the moment he said that "m" word last August. He can still help with fundraising and organizing, but in terms of being in a position where he needs to win an election, he's done.

Gilmore's a possibility, and I do like him.

Bob Goodlatte (my congressman)? Great guy, very conservative, but a political unknown in NoVA and Tidewater. If he's interested, he needs to get popping.

Tom Davis is a complete RINO, but the default choice unless the GOP can come up with someone else.

Gunboat1 09-02-2007 08:48

I don't agree about Allen being unelectable. He lost by a fairly close margin against Webb, who was running as a moderately pro-gun, anti-war Democrat, in a year when Republicans and Iraq were extremely unpopular. If the Dims run a left-wing lib (and he avoids gaffes), Allen could very well excite much more support than that candidate. Let's not count him out quite yet, and if possible, let's not settle for another anti-gun RINO like John Warner has been for so long. We need a strong pro-2A Senator in Warner's current seat.

MADISON 09-02-2007 11:16

Who would be a good electable Senator
 
Let's discuss who would make and good Senator:

Goode would be an illiterate disaster.
Probablly his only calim to fame is goving gun owners the Cooncealed Carry Legisation.

George Allen was a good Senator but, lost his seat to Webb. Webb has elected himself to be the Democrats "Mouth Piece".

Gim Gilmore ridded us of the car tax and, has ran for president several times.

Who would be best?

Wolfgang 09-02-2007 15:39

the other warner will probably make it

Fungunner 09-03-2007 05:46

I'd definately vote for a pro-gun (ugh) Democrat, over Tom Davis and his anti-gun wife, Senator DD.

Would Jim Gilmore even want the job?

Meanwhile, aren't we do to elect a worthy governor at that same time?
Guess that should be another thread.

vafish 09-03-2007 06:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolfgang
the other warner will probably make it
The other Warner was better to gun owners than the Senator has been lately.

DannyR 09-03-2007 07:01

Yes, and Mark would get my vote. I'm an independent and have always voted for the candidate rather than the party.

Gunboat1 09-03-2007 10:35

The problem with voting for a Democrat is that it helps their anti-gun extremist leadership to stay in control of congress. We'd all be better off with GOP committee chairmen and majority leadership. Go Gilmore or Allen!

rwrjr 09-03-2007 12:11

Gilmore! - setting the bar low aren't we?
 
I'm an independent, a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian would come close to describing me. I'm not affiliated with either of the controlling parties because I think they're all idiots, although for different reasons.

I'm surprised to see people here talking about supporting Gilmore. Other than the car tax issue, which was a double edged sword, he didn't do a damn thing here in 4 years. He left the state in a bad way financially and Mark Warner had to work pretty hard to straighten things out. I don't think highly of Bush and I think even less of Gilmore. Gilmore couldn't run the state. Gilmore couldn't run the RNC. And Gilmore doesn't stand a snowball's chance in h@ll of running the country. THANK GOODNESS! Gilmore has failed in all his attempts at running a large organization, whether a state government or political party.

With Allen, been there, done that, too much baggage.

Of the names mentioned so far I think Mark Warner is by far and away the best choice. He would do what is best for VA and would stand up to those democrats who want to take away our 2nd ammendment rights. I'd vote for the best person for VA first, and the USA second, regardless of party affiliation.

I am glad John Warner is stepping down. He's been living off his resume for way too long now and not really doing anything useful. It's time for some fresh blood.

Now if we can just get rid of that idiot Moran from my district. One of this guy's lackeys came to our house to ask questions. My wife answered the door and he asked to speak to the man of the house. She told him I was busy and said she would talk to him. He said, no thanks, I want to speak to the man of the house. I heard this from the next room and was laughing because my wife is a democrat and would be a much better target for this guy than me.

So anyway I walk to the door and ask him what he wants. He has a big Moran button on his shirt and asks me what's the most important issue to me right now. I said term limits. He says, excuse me? I said, TERM LIMITS. The doofus just turns around and walks away. Yeah, he collected good information that day. Just wanted rubber stamp bozos who don't know the issues or know Moran's record (both in and out of the House).

Boy did you guys open a can of worms. :supergrin:

Bonk 09-03-2007 14:22

Re: Gilmore! - setting the bar low aren't we?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rwrjr
Boy did you guys open a can of worms. :supergrin:
Good. GTOD has been lacking some vigorous debate for a while. :thumbsup: The VA forum at arfcom is a little more active, but I quit going there (arfcom in general that is) after the LEO-hating got out of hand.

Seriously, Mark Warner running is now pretty much a given. Who to run against him, though?

Wolfgang 09-03-2007 15:00

I can't see either Gilmore or G Allen being electable (sp)

Fungunner 09-03-2007 17:50

The last democrat that came to my door, asking me what concerns I had in the upcoming election, I told her Illegals, taxes, traffic and Democrats fascination with Socialism. She wasn't too eager to get into the last one.

keith56 09-03-2007 17:58

Quote:

Originally posted by vafish
The other Warner was better to gun owners than the Senator has been lately.
As much as I hate to admit it you are 100% right.

rwrjr 09-03-2007 19:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Fungunner
I'd definitely vote for a pro-gun (ugh) Democrat, over Tom Davis and his anti-gun wife, Senator DD.
I see you got that BS political mailing from her too. Her campain has a contact email address listed, and I sent a polite message asking where she stands on gun control and the 2nd ammendment. I invited her to clearly state her opinion and stand behind it. I ended my message by saying that my wife and I are gun owners and that we vote. I didn't even get an automated response.

One of the things that gets me fired up is wishy-washy political double speak. Damn it, if you have a position, state it clearly and stand behind it. I can respect somebody who can intelligently articulate their position, even if I don't agree with it. JDD's political flier did not contain one single clear, concise, position statement. Just fuzzy feel good BS about families and not wanting to go to another funeral of a youngster killed by firearms. Even my wife laughed at the flier, and she's a democrat.

Ron

MADISON 09-04-2007 07:59

Who will our new Senator be?
 
Before our John W. Warner was elected we had a one term Senator whom you could not call our represenative in Washington.
He did not attend many sessions of Congress and did nothing required of a Senator.
He and his wife toured 60 coountries at tax payer expense.
Who was he?
We don't want another Anti-Gun Senator, representing Virginia.

Jerseycitysteve 09-06-2007 00:31

Virgil Goode is an illiterate, eh? Did you graduate Phi Beta Kappa from University of Richmond or anywhere else? Rep. Good's law degree is from UVA! UVA is in the top ten of American law schools and not many illiterates graduate from Mr. Jefferson's school. Here's a word to the "wise." Before you talk about Mr. Goode's intellectual prowess, check your spelling.

I know Virgil Goode and I know many of the citizens he's helped in his district. Virgil would make a superb senator.

Don't let some allegedly pro-gun Democrat fool you. Virgil left the Democrat Party because his conservative views isolated him from the Democrat caucus. For you Paulestinians, Virgil Goode along with Ron Paul is a member of the House Liberty Caucus.

:bringiton:


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