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Old 02-02-2010, 01:03   #182
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Originally Posted by glock20c10mm View Post
Autopsies only tell part of a much bigger story. They are useless in terms of telling anyone if a BG was incapacitated in 30 seconds or 5 seconds. Even the cops on the scene can't always tell you that, as they commonly have no idea how many rounds they fired among other things they DON'T REMEMBER or DON'T REMEMBER ACCURATELY.

Also, don't know what autopsies you're refering to, but interestingly enough, many of us who have examined animals we've shot with 9mm and 357SIG, clearly have seen more damage done by the 357SIG, not to mention quicker incapacitation times.

Frankly the hunting situations you speak of using the 9mm and 357 sig are suspect from the start. For starters all of you supposedly doing this are big bore fans so there is researcher bias. Then there is the issue of the animals shot themselves. Was each one shot in the exact same manner in the same place, was each animal the same size. Were they spooked prior to being shot. Etc. Frankly such sophomoric tests are useless and un-repeatable. I have shot 2 bear with 12 gauge slugs. The bears did not go down as fast as I would have wanted them to. Does that mean the 12 gauge slug is a poor stopper? There are way too many variables in a hunting situation to make it valid research.

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