alot of people recommended the MiniMags when i was searching for recommendations but the Winchester Power Points in 40 gr actually grouped slightly better than the MiniMags in my semi. i did my testing with Federal bulk 550, Remington 525 Golden Bullets, CCI MiniMags, Winchester Power Points and a couple others. the Remingtons did quite well for bulk but have always been told they shoot pretty dirty. what i did was take the top recommendations from others then added some. shot all to figure what my rifle liked then stocked up. heres the list best to worst.