I'd say HK on both counts. I had a 229 and just picked up a P2000 last week (my 2nd HK). The grip is a tad shorter (-2 rounds) than the p30, and $100 cheaper. This will be my EDC. The P30 grip is by far the best feeling polymer pistol available IMHO. I would love to grab a P30L at some point.
Got a chance to fondle a HK45c while I was there. It was absolutely fabulous. Just had a Kobra Carry built that I am paying off, but the HK45c is next on my "to buy" list.
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