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Old 10-09-2012, 20:49   #58
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Another thing to remember, with everyone thinking Ryan is going to eat joe, Ryan can be a good debater but if its not an absolute knock out with joe on the floor screaming uncle. joe wins. All he has to do is stand and grin, say very little. He wins.
joes side is probably estatic.
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