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Old 10-10-2012, 15:08   #300
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Why do you seem to be continuously attacking me personally or based on ideology when I'm addressing specifics in a (relatively) polite manner?

You have not responded or refuted my post at all. You simply are repeating a generalized ideological statement about others "forcing their will on people" ... when I've given you an outlined, logical argument that says it is for that EXACT reason that the mandate is needed (to prevent others from "forcing their will on people"). Frankly, to this point, I see your responses to me as a cop-out.

What realistic solution do you have beyond repeating the same ideology?

Do you accept the reality that people WILL get medical care regardless of Obamacare or whether it is a right or privilege (like they did before Obamacare was passed)? It isn't an ideological question ... simple question based on reality.

PS - I'm not flintlocker. Address me please. You seem to really have an infatuation with him or he really got under your skin. May I suggest you PM him if he won't debate you in a forum thread instead of inserting your past issues into this debate?

Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
Am I going to refuse treatment? Wrong question! The questions should be why would/should anyone “expect” something they can’t pay for. Because they believe other should support them. It’s call liberalism/socialism.

My original statement was, “liberals keep forcing their will on people” You asked for an example. And here we are with you proving my point for me.

What you have proven is that you are a liberal/socialist that wants the rest of us to pay for those that don’t or won’t pay. Privilege or not doesn’t matter? Did you follow the link I provided? Did you read? The government has no right doling out charity or forcing me to pay for charity. You don’t care about Ben’s quote because it’s spot on and proves the illogic of your thought process.

I’ll ask you the same question I asked Flintlocker and I’ll offer you the same remedy I offered Flintlocker. Do you know there is no law preventing you from sending in more taxes than you are required to pay? Since you’re so worried about those that can’t afford to purchase insurance why don’t you figure out how much tax you really owe without using loopholes and then sent in double that amount. If all the liberals did that just think how many people “YOU” could help. I’m willing to bet you won’t take me up on it. Why? Liberal are all for making other people pay but when asked to bear the burden themselves they come up with excuses and try to play the blame game. If you get sick or hurt it’s not my fault. Pay your own damn bills I pay mine.

You asked for an example and I gave you one. You asked for an explanation of that example and I gave you one. All you’ve done is prove I was right and try to convince me why it’s NECESSARY. What you have succeeded in doing is prove it a socialist program that you want everyone to pay for.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt, 1783

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