It is at this point in this "conversation" that I would like to point out that you gentlemen are arguing with a person who believes that 9/11 was an inside job, possibly carried out by our very own government. As you may have noticed he tends to be..... well.... not entirely rational, as if perhaps his meds need to be adjusted.
I believe the correct medical term is "Wackaloon".
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