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Old 12-23-2012, 12:54   #118
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Originally Posted by arizona_andy View Post

One alternative would likely be some form of 5" .45ACP with which I would only use +P ammunition (because otherwise .45ACP is just far too slow IMO.)

So... yes, the government in Australia did do a bit of rounding up of weapons and magazines. But anyone going door-to-door here in America demanding that we hand over our weapons isn't likely to have a very long life expectancy.
Funny, so now vel kills?
Reality, most, the vast majority of law abiding folks are going to give up their guns in the face of LE confiscation. After all, we are law abiding. The few that would shoot it out w/ LE would be branded terrorists by the left wing media. Their goal, all liberals, is to have total ban on guns. They chose the so called AW as the starting point because it looks menacing & 75% of the people don't know the diff between an AR & a 870. So it's their start. Then when that doesn't curb crime, it will be all handguns, then all long guns, there is no end until their is a total ban.
Guns have been with us for our entire existance as a nation. Until 1968, you could go into any store & buy anything you wanted, no background check. Own semiauto, machine gun, didn't matter. We didn't have the type of violence we have today. We didn't have the media coverage we have today. We didn't have a left wing, Nazi propaganda style media we have today. We did have fathers in almost every home. We did have discipline in every school. The problem is not guns but societal break down. I only wish LaPierre & the NRA could articulate that better. AR, Glock or single shot 12ga, it wouldn't matter when every victim is unarmed, trapped in a small space & there is only an unarmed 140# female to deal with the problem.
Can they pass anothger AWB, sure, there is a reason the media is still covering the funerals. Will they, maybe, if there is enough publci pushback & the right media coverage. I know it will be far more restrictive than the last one, again, the Libs are dumb but not stupid. They will want more teethe in it this time. So plan accordingly, something will happen & it won't be good.
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