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Old 01-22-2013, 21:52   #346
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Originally Posted by Animal Mother View Post
Who is making that argument? Could you provide some specific examples?
Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc View Post
I know, really big numbers. Really big guesses too, with a lot of variances and a large margin of error too.

The possibilities are remote enough for either side to be completely sure, if they evaluate it all together. It's not a collection of just elements, but a collection of structures and data containing materials that interact remotely within a single cell, one small defect, one hole in the wrong place, one channel that pushes electrolytes in the wrong direction, and none of it works at all. And, once you got all that stuff together, making it in such a way that it could replicate itself, that's pretty remote too.

However it started, it is rather amazing. It would be cool to know for sure, but it's not necessary to have a good day today.
Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc View Post
That's one side of the coin. The other is that some people think they need to know. They guess in the other direction and then try to support their own beliefs to the exclusion of others.

That's ego too.

Why can't we just enjoy what is, and not worry about ensuring that everyone agrees with us?
Originally Posted by hooligan74 View Post
So you're agreeing that really unlikely things become, effectively, more likely when you repeat the scenario billions of times, right?

Absolutely agreed with all three points above.
Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc View Post
Not completely. I know this is a meme, but if you put a bunch of chimpanzees in a room with a typewriter, even for a trillion years, they will not type the complete works of Shakespeare, not as long as they are chimps as we know them today, unable to really get where Cesario was coming from emotionally.

ID vs. Unaided Natural Phenomena...... Honestly, both are difficult to have faith in for me. They are very remote in their own way.

It would be neat to find another civilization on another planet that would be willing to peacefully discuss the issue and share notes, as opposed to just eating us.

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Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc View Post
History is full of examples. Chance encounters are less likely than those with a motive, opportunity and ability.

The problem is that humans have motive to believe the way they do, and have a hard time evaluating the question without prejudice.

These are the replies you've posted since my request. Should I take this to mean that the requested examples to substantiate your claim will not be forthcoming?
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