This debate can have no satisfying conclusion. It is speculation about what may happen in the future and neither position has a time machine.
Russ, I don't want supporters, I want the natural right of man to liberty and self-determination. The police are not freedom fighters, they are specifically agents of the government that seeks to remove said right and one of their profession assuring me that it won't occur is not persuasive.
Thank you for an interesting discussion.
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