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Old 02-05-2013, 18:16   #2
raven11
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its less vaporware than the KSG is, the UTS 15 you can actually buy at my LGS

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He's actually wrong, after 8-9 shots with a 9mm bullet, you actually get a text on your phone saying "You are being shot at by a 9mm, don't worry, just ignore him and walk away."
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