Originally Posted by JBnTX
I know a lot of Native Americans that will agree with you.
I naturally gravitate to Native American and Shamanistic traditions. I find that they are more in touch with the natural and the spirit than our modern practices based on the alert problem solving state of mind. The caffeinated ready to do business at the office mindset is one in which a person can never have a spiritual experience of any sort. The rhythmic drumming and shamanic herbs change the consciousness so that we can experience the spirit. To a lesser extent this can take place in modern churches where people sing hymns and pray, but even that seems like a half measure to me based on ritual instead of "knowing for yourself", and is still detached from nature and spirit for that reason.