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Old 01-18-2010, 07:49   #1
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Colt XSE Vs. SA Loaded Vs Kimber Custom II

I am trying ti decide between a NIB SA Loaded with NS and a LNIB Colt XSE Gov size. I am wanting this gun for shooting matches (idpa), bowling pin shoots, etc. Its gonna get alot of use. I would pay about 50 more for the colt. What would you guys choose and why, Thanks alot

Oh and if it matters the colt is series 80. Also if anyone else has a different suggestions on a gun in my range please let me know. I cant really go higher than 800 including tax, shipping ffl etc.

Ok the kimber just entered the picture. My local shop has a excellent kimber Custom II with the dredded external extractor for 599. So thats gonna 200 less than the colt. This would be nice cause then I could order my re loading press, however I dont want to skimp but if that is a good gun at a fair price I wouldnt mind it. Plus It felt buttery smooth and had a nice trigger
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:27   #2
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I would pick the colt... Made in USA, my colts have been 100% reliable.
I can not say that my springfields have always been reliable.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:43   #3
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Hello JGguns,
IMHO if you can make arrangements to inspect the Colt or have someone with the knowledge give it an examination prior to accepting it, so it can be replaced bypassing Colt Repair, and you find a good one, likely, then Colt absolutely.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:51   #4
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I can take a look at it. I dont know any 1911 guys so I can only go by what I know (wich is limited lol) Any specific reasons for the colt?
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:01   #5
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When done right, they are the originators of the pistol. Quality forged parts for the most part. US made, trade deficits, Americans with jobs, and if it's not a Colt it a clone
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Old 01-21-2010, 19:09   #6
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, and if it's not a Colt it a clone
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Or an improvement.
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Old 01-21-2010, 21:43   #7
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After an extensive, flawless range session a couple of years ago, on my hip as I type with no hiccups.

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Colt currently uses 3 MIM parts.

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sear
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MACHINED from bar stock
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all pins
bbl link
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extractor
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Thanks for that info. I've got the XSE in blue and love it. I don't know how many rounds I've put through it but it's a lot, and same story. Absolutely flawless in function. I want to get a compact now. I'd like to get a commander but I really want a 4" gun.
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Old 01-21-2010, 23:31   #9
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This post I think shoud be made a sticky. I think there are lot Colt freaks out there that want to know what's made of what in their guns.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:02   #10
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...Any specific reasons for the colt?
Itīs like picking the woman with big knockers. Itīs just the right thing to do.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:18   #11
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Itīs like picking the woman with big knockers. Itīs just the right thing to do.
Lol well when put that way...... I like colt alot I actually have a the Lightweight commander xse. But I have shot some loadeds that I liked alot as well. I am sure I would be happy with either
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Colt, easily in this case.
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Buy the Colt.

It's a better pistol than the Springfield and a much better pistol than the Kimber. The Colt is tough, reliable and accurate. I'm still shooting a 1911 that my grandfather brought back from World War II. The Colt will retain it's value better than the other two guns as well. Only the uninformed buy an external extractor Kimber.

Also, if you ever want to build up a custom pistol the Colt is a better base platform. The XSE already has a frame that has a trigger guard undercut for a high grip, an ambi-safety and front cocking serrations.
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Can't go wrong with either.
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Ok the kimber just got added to the mix.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:14   #16
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After reading some threads and see some prices and reviews it seems that the kimber for alittle over six and a quarter is a decent price. So my only question is, is the external extractor a deal breaker?
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:44   #17
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The ee is hit or miss. I owned a Custom II with one, but had it replaced with an internal extractor. If you do have any problems, Kimber will make it right (it might take 3 months).
As for the Springer verses Colt deal, it comes down to brand loyalty . Both are good guns. The Colt does have less mim parts, but to me that is not an issue.
You said that you were going to use it as a match gun right? Then why not go for the one that is $50 cheaper, with night sights, and new in box? That extra can go towards that reloading press. Trust me both guns will do the job you mention above.
By the way if you do decide on the Kimber (talk them down lower), set aside an extra $60 for shipping, just in case. For that $60 they go over it with a fine toothcomb, making it a great deal.
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Having owned all of the above mentioned pistols, for my money, I'd go with the Kimber. The Loaded Springer would be my second choice. The EE got a bum rap. Yeah, there were a few problems, all easily operator corrected. The internal extractor in 1911s require frequent tuning as well. I own them with both IE and EE. Not a nickel's worth of difference in performance, (in my experience). Strange that all the other pistol platforms are ok with the EE, but not the 1911. Hmmm. Something wrong with that logic.
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having owned all of the above mentioned pistols, for my money, i'd go with the kimber. The loaded springer would be my second choice. The ee got a bum rap. Yeah, there were a few problems, all easily operator corrected. The internal extractor in 1911s require frequent tuning as well. I own them with both ie and ee. Not a nickel's worth of difference in performance, (in my experience). Strange that all the other pistol platforms are ok with the ee, but not the 1911. Hmmm. Something wrong with that logic.
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at last, i have owned kimbers with ee, never had a problem....pay attention to the above post....SOLD 2 KIMBERS WTH EE NO PROBLEM, NO LOSS OF BUCKS.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:01   #20
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I'd take the Colt. They are good guns. 1911 Forums
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