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01-19-2010, 18:25
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Need best 9mm load
I'm looking for your best 9mm loads. These will be used in a Glock longslide. Thanks
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01-19-2010, 18:31
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Whats your manual say for the choices of bullet or powders you have available? What type of PF are you looking for? Are these for practice / plinking / competition / simulated SD ? Are you concerned about shooting lead in your stock barrel or do you intend to get an aftermarket BBL?
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01-19-2010, 18:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxerglocker
Whats your manual say for the choices of bullet or powders you have available? What type of PF are you looking for? Are these for practice / plinking / competition / simulated SD ? Are you concerned about shooting lead in your stock barrel or do you intend to get an aftermarket BBL?
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^^^ needed info
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01-19-2010, 18:45
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Originally Posted by muchocranium
I'm looking for your best 9mm loads. These will be used in a Glock longslide. Thanks
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My best load may not work worth a darn in your gun. Likely it won't as you won't be able to find the same components I use. Then you'll end up substituting components, and it won't be the same load.
The way to find the best load for your gun is to start with the load manual, and get components in small quantities (don't go out and by 1000 pills and an 8# keg of powder). Many projectile companies will sell you sample packs to work up loads. Get your powder in 1# canisters or borrow 100 grains from a buddy. Offer to swap some powder with him.
Once you have components, start your load development. Shoot from a rest and steady bench. Keep good records. Use a chronograph. Keep an eye out for pressure signs, hard extraction, proper cycling.
Given all the variables, the load books will give you as good a starting point as you will get here, plus, it will give you more options.
Last edited by dudel; 01-20-2010 at 00:54..
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01-19-2010, 19:12
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reloading nut
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115 wwB.
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01-19-2010, 20:07
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Originally Posted by shotgunred
115 wwB.
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And shoot with me so I can keep your brass 
Seriously, "best" all depends on what you want it to do.
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01-19-2010, 20:46
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reloading nut
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POST"12"
Seriously there are two or three treads on the first page alone with all kinds of 9mm info on them.
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And shoot with me so I can keep your brass
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I will trade you all the brass you want for primers and even throw in a good 9mm load.
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01-19-2010, 20:51
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hey, you might want to read a little. you should already know, no one can tell you anything without type of powder and weight of bullet. I am not being a smart *** by no means, it is just dangerous. read up a little, lot of different information available online and get a BOOK OR TWO
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01-20-2010, 05:13
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Bustin Caps
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Typical powders are TiteGroup, Unique, and there are several Solo-1000 users in here (I like it). Of course other powders are used, but those are probably the most popular. Much success can be had with other powders, but when I was doing the same research as you, that's pretty much what I found.
As was mentioned... it's tough to give you "a load", without knowing what your intentions are. If you're just wanting to shoot... 115gr bullets would be fine. If you're thinking about competing you might want to look at 147gr bullets.
I run 147gr Montana Gold bullets over Solo-1000. Solo is a little difficult as there isn't much load data available for it. But if you used something like TiteGroup, you could easily google "9mm 147 load TiteGroup" (without the quotes), and get PLENTY of load data. Do the same thing with ANY POWDER you're interested in (and grain bullet), and you'll start getting some numbers.
Best to work your way up with a chronograph. For $100 or so from Midway, the "Pro Chronograph" can't be beat.
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01-20-2010, 07:06
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I'm easing back into the 9mm after many years away. I ordered a few 100 of Rainier plated 115 grn bullets(on sale at Midwayusa). I think I will start out with a modest charge of w-231, the 4.0 grn area seems about right. I still have some old reloads to burn through but that's where I'm going with the new stuff.
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01-20-2010, 07:14
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I also use Solo 1000,4.25 gr,Montana Gold 115 fmj,these are great target rounds with little recoil in a glock 26/19.
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01-20-2010, 08:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muchocranium
I'm looking for your best 9mm loads. These will be used in a Glock longslide. Thanks
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AA#9 with the Max loading in your load manual.
OR
Solo 1000 with min loading
I'm not really sure.
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01-20-2010, 08:27
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Footlong Jr.
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My WWB 115gr 9mm duplication load.
115gr FMJ, Winchester Small Pistol primer and 5.3gr Unique.
Seated to and overall lengeth of 1.15".
Average velocity at 73 degress out of a Beretta 92 is 1149fps.
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01-20-2010, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Graham
My WWB 115gr 9mm duplication load.
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WWB duplication is your best load? 
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01-20-2010, 17:51
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Originally Posted by dudel
WWB duplication is your best load? |
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
I don't get what so funny. Lots of people like to make a WWB duplication load.
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See that dudel... now you've confused, and quite possibly insulted C4W... it appears that both you and RustyFN have to learn to behave yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk. 
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01-20-2010, 19:29
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Originally Posted by GioaJack
See that dudel... now you've confused, and quite possibly insulted C4W... it appears that both you and RustyFN have to learn to behave yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Jack, I hope you live long enough to see that. You've got many, many years ahead of you.
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01-21-2010, 17:51
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Originally Posted by GioaJack
See that dudel... now you've confused, and quite possibly insulted C4W... it appears that both you and RustyFN have to learn to behave yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Jack my New Years resolution was to try and be a little nicer. I haven't mentioned the FCD in at least a week.
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01-21-2010, 18:56
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Conifer Jack
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Jack my New Years resolution was to try and be a little nicer. I haven't mentioned the FCD in at least a week. |
Yes Rusty, you've been a very good boy lately... I figured you were sick. 
Jack
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01-21-2010, 05:40
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Footlong Jr.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dudel
WWB duplication is your best load? |
Yep.
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Originally Posted by dudel
My best load may not work worth a darn in your gun. ..........................
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Unlike your load, mine works great in all 9mm firearms.
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Last edited by Patrick Graham; 01-21-2010 at 05:44..
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01-21-2010, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Patrick Graham
Yep.
Unlike your load, mine works great in all 9mm firearms. |
Yep, we can all throw away all our pet loads, and just use WWB duplicate loads because it "works great in all 9mm firearms".
When I develop a load, I don't care it it doesn't work well in all guns; just MY guns. Commercial ammo has to work in all guns, mine doesn't. As a result, they make compromises, I don't have to. I can tune the load for my purpose, and my guns.
The whole purpose of reloading (at least to me) is to find the right load, the best load, for a particular gun. Do you really believe that WWB is a great load for "all" 9mm firearms?
I got some waterfront property for you.
A buddy of mine shoots WWB. Since he doesn't reload, I get the brass. So, I love WWB, I just don't shoot it anymore. I don't because I can do better, much better.
People duplicate loads all the time. Normally they try to duplicate a high priced commercial SD load. That way, when they practice, they are practicing with same/similar, recoil, rise, blast, penetration, etc. By duplicating a high priced load, they save money.
Why would anyone want to duplicate the cheapest, least stellar commercial, lowest QCed, mass produced load available?  Is there a less stellar load than WWB? If there is, I can't think of it. WWB is what people get when they can't find/afford anything else. I've never heard of WWB being anyone's first choice for ammo unless they were just wanting to make noise or they didn't know better. BTW, my buddy gets it because he just wants to make noise.
Yep, all the top shooters are using WWB. 
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01-21-2010, 17:17
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Footlong Jr.
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Originally Posted by dudel
Yep, we can all throw away all our pet loads, and just use WWB duplicate loads because it "works great in all 9mm firearms".
When I develop a load, I don't care it it doesn't work well in all guns; just MY guns. Commercial ammo has to work in all guns, mine doesn't. As a result, they make compromises, I don't have to. I can tune the load for my purpose, and my guns.
The whole purpose of reloading (at least to me) is to find the right load, the best load, for a particular gun. Do you really believe that WWB is a great load for "all" 9mm firearms?
I got some waterfront property for you.
A buddy of mine shoots WWB. Since he doesn't reload, I get the brass. So, I love WWB, I just don't shoot it anymore. I don't because I can do better, much better.
People duplicate loads all the time. Normally they try to duplicate a high priced commercial SD load. That way, when they practice, they are practicing with same/similar, recoil, rise, blast, penetration, etc. By duplicating a high priced load, they save money.
Why would anyone want to duplicate the cheapest, least stellar commercial, lowest QCed, mass produced load available? Is there a less stellar load than WWB? If there is, I can't think of it. WWB is what people get when they can't find/afford anything else. I've never heard of WWB being anyone's first choice for ammo unless they were just wanting to make noise or they didn't know better. BTW, my buddy gets it because he just wants to make noise.
Yep, all the top shooters are using WWB. |
LOL!!!
I recognize that toxicity.
You've been here before in another life.
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01-24-2010, 11:55
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Originally Posted by dudel
yep, we can all throw away all our pet loads, and just use wwb duplicate loads because it "works great in all 9mm firearms".
When i develop a load, i don't care it it doesn't work well in all guns; just my guns. Commercial ammo has to work in all guns, mine doesn't. As a result, they make compromises, i don't have to. I can tune the load for my purpose, and my guns.
The whole purpose of reloading (at least to me) is to find the right load, the best load, for a particular gun. Do you really believe that wwb is a great load for "all" 9mm firearms?
I got some waterfront property for you.
A buddy of mine shoots wwb. Since he doesn't reload, i get the brass. So, i love wwb, i just don't shoot it anymore. I don't because i can do better, much better.
People duplicate loads all the time. Normally they try to duplicate a high priced commercial sd load. That way, when they practice, they are practicing with same/similar, recoil, rise, blast, penetration, etc. By duplicating a high priced load, they save money.
Why would anyone want to duplicate the cheapest, least stellar commercial, lowest qced, mass produced load available? Is there a less stellar load than wwb? If there is, i can't think of it. Wwb is what people get when they can't find/afford anything else. I've never heard of wwb being anyone's first choice for ammo unless they were just wanting to make noise or they didn't know better. Btw, my buddy gets it because he just wants to make noise.
Yep, all the top shooters are using wwb. |
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01-21-2010, 18:47
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NO BRASS FOR U!
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Originally Posted by dudel
WWB duplication is your best load? |
Oh my, I am sure that his loads shoot better than that WWB crap.
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01-24-2010, 11:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Graham
My WWB 115gr 9mm duplication load.
115gr FMJ, Winchester Small Pistol primer and 5.3gr Unique.
Seated to and overall lengeth of 1.15".
Average velocity at 73 degress out of a Beretta 92 is 1149fps.
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Indeed an excellent load! and very accurate in my glock 19. I have never had a issue of any kind w/this load, and it shoots more accurately than me.
I think people must not know how to re-load with some of the idiot comments that I see in here some times.
In fact I would stay far away from these experts ideas of a handload... be careful you'll shoot your eye out..... retards..
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