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Old 12-13-2010, 21:46   #1
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Enlisting in USAF, Any Advice?

I know I'm a little late to the party, but at almost 23 years of age, I've decided to enlist in the AF. Going through some things trying to get a waiver, since I was diagnosed with childhood asthma. I ran track and cross country in high school, so hopefully this will be cleared up.....

I'm very interested in Security Forces, but open to other jobs as well.

Anyways, as a (hopeful) recruit, any advice?
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Old 12-14-2010, 15:47   #2
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Congrats and you picked well. 3 years Army here.

I would pick a technical job so when it comes time to get out of the military I could have a skill that transfers to the civilian world and hopefully one that pays well.
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Old 12-14-2010, 16:36   #3
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Congrats and you picked well. 3 years Army here.

I would pick a technical job so when it comes time to get out of the military I could have a skill that transfers to the civilian world and hopefully one that pays well.

I agree. I was combat arms. It was fun but didn't do much for me when I got out. I had no interest in being in law enforcement. There are some high tech jobs in there, let them train you and you'll be set for life.

Good luck with your pursuit.

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Congrats and you picked well. 3 years Army here.

I would pick a technical job so when it comes time to get out of the military I could have a skill that transfers to the civilian world and hopefully one that pays well.

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Old 12-14-2010, 16:57   #5
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I was Security Forces. Most of you training will NOT cross over and most of the copstuff they teach you in the academy you will never (unless you make sergeant.....maybe) have a chance to do.

If you need info, PM me. I will tell you the non BS version and it's recent (I got out in Dec 2008, i have guys working in the academy now who were troops of mine who are now instructors).
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Isn't Security Forces guarding a missal silo in South Dakota at -35 degrees?
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Old 12-14-2010, 18:35   #7
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Isn't Security Forces guarding a missal silo in South Dakota at -35 degrees?
That or a B-52, Same weather.
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Isn't Security Forces guarding a missal silo in South Dakota at -35 degrees?

We dont have silos up here anymore and its only gotten to -25 so far this yr! After the temp hits zero you don't feel any colder....on the bright side you'll end up wearing shorts when it hit +32, 3 days later!
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Old 12-15-2010, 21:48   #9
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I just got out of the Air Force. I would recommend a flying job. You are enlisting so that would be: A Linguist, Loadmaster, boom operator or gunner. Take it from someone who knows. If you are going to be in the Air Force, you want to be a flyer.
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Old 12-15-2010, 23:32   #10
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Great posts above. Also remember, unless it's in writing, it's not guaranteed.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:36   #11
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How smart are you? If you're really nerdy you can try for 9S, but you have to like algebra, calculus, chemistry, physics and geology. Bonus points for interests in D&D and World of Warcraft.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:20   #12
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I was in LE from 1971/1974 Loved it. Worked as PD officer for 3 years
after that. NRA trainer and help train local PD's. I would guess that things
have changed alot since then. But you get the best of most things,
chow, rooms,etc. Good luck

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Old 12-31-2010, 11:04   #13
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How smart are you? If you're really nerdy you can try for 9S, but you have to like algebra, calculus, chemistry, physics and geology. Bonus points for interests in D&D and World of Warcraft.
LOL @ Ralff. Are you a 9S?

Advice to the OP:
1. First and foremost: No matter what job you do, GET IT IN WRITING. There are plenty of horror stories of people not getting a contract for their job and they end up flipping omelettes for 4-6 years.

2. I'm a 9S100, which as Ralff alluded to is a highly technical career field. If you can qualify for it I would give it the highest recommendation (requires the highest ASVAB scores). Most recruiters are unfamiliar with this field because there are so few of us in the AF, so you will have to press on them if you are really interested. If you don't qualify for it, you should still try for something technical or that has a security clearance because both will provide you the best options for a job once you decide to leave the AF. Flying jobs are also very cool, but not sure of the employability factor after the AF for those jobs....

3. If you are very physically minded and in great shape (mentally as well as physically), you can try Pararescue, Combat Control Team, TACP, or Combat Weather

4. It's my advice that you should stay away from Security Forces, Crew Chief, or any services related fields. I've known people in all theses fields and they have some of lowest morale and job satisfaction for a multitude of reasons

Hope this helps. Whatever you do...good luck!
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Yep, cross trained over from 3D back when it was 3C. I'm at headquarters in GEMS. 9S folks are by far the most unique people I think I've ever come across.
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I just got out of the Air Force. I would recommend a flying job. You are enlisting so that would be: A Linguist, Loadmaster, boom operator or gunner. Take it from someone who knows. If you are going to be in the Air Force, you want to be a flyer.
This, but if you are looking for action, 1A3 and 1A4. Right now, 1A4 specifically.

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Old 12-16-2010, 11:26   #16
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....I'm very interested in Security Forces....

DON'T DO IT!!!
Not Security Forces, Hell No, No Way!!!


...And I know what I'm talking about because I spent 21 years in the USAF
as a Security Policeman (1971-1992). I retired a Master Sergeant in 1992.

Security Forces (as it's now called) is nothing more than a plain old security
guard job. The only difference between it and a civilian security guard job is
what you're guarding. Nuclear weapons versus some warehouse somewhere.

Where will your Security Forces training get you a job after you leave the AF?
You guessed it! A security guard job. Think about it!

Don't get me wrong. I loved the job, but it's not for everyone. Hell, it's not
for 95% of most people. I liked it because I have a tremendous amount of patience,
don't mind boredom, I like guns, the outdoors and I like being alone.

Does that describe you?

Unless you like standing all alone out in the freezing rain or the scorching hot sun
for hours at a time, stay away from security forces.

As previously stated, get a specific job guarantee in writing before you sign anything.
Security Foces is the largest enlisted career field and chances are that's where you'll end up
if you don't get a specific job guarantee in writing before you join.

Recruiters are always pressured to fill SF job slots because the USAF always needs them due
to the high turnover rate. They will stick your ass there in a heartbeat.

Please don't misunderstand my rant. I loved every minute of every day while
I was a Security Policeman, but I saw many, many, many unhappy people in that job.

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Old 12-27-2010, 21:28   #17
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DON'T DO IT!!!
Not Security Forces, Hell No, No Way!!!

...And I know what I'm talking about because I spent 21 years in the USAF
as a Security Policeman (1971-1992). I retired a Master Sergeant in 1992.

Security Forces (as it's now called) is nothing more than a plain old security
guard job. The only difference between it and a civilian security guard job is
what you're guarding. Nuclear weapons versus some warehouse somewhere.

Where will your Security Forces training get you a job after you leave the AF?
You guessed it! A security guard job. Think about it!

Don't get me wrong. I loved the job, but it's not for everyone. Hell, it's not
for 95% of most people. I liked it because I have a tremendous amount of patience,
don't mind boredom, I like guns, the outdoors and I like being alone.

Does that describe you?

Unless you like standing all alone out in the freezing rain or the scorching hot sun
for hours at a time, stay away from security forces.

As previously stated, get a specific job guarantee in writing before you sign anything.
Security Foces is the largest enlisted career field and chances are that's where you'll end up
if you don't get a specific job guarantee in writing before you join.

Recruiters are always pressured to fill SF job slots because the USAF always needs them due
to the high turnover rate. They will stick your ass there in a heartbeat.

Please don't misunderstand my rant. I loved every minute of every day while
I was a Security Policeman, but I saw many, many, many unhappy people in that job.
  • I gotta agree yet disagree. Security forces( Security Specialist) 1988-2004, 1st Sgt 2004-2007. Retired in 2007. I was SAC ( Barksdale LA), USAFE ( Europe), AMC( transports), and 1st Sgt for a C-130 Sq, and a Civil Engineer Sq. Yes, like any police job the hours and shifts can suck. It can be boring no doubt. But, I've done my time on the "stone" guarding nukes, etc. I've also worked in the armory, training, and as a Anti-Terrorism/Force Protection NCO. The career field is not for everyone... Currently SF is heavily deployed in Afghanistan, and Iraq so lots of time in the "box". And yes, SF does go outside the wire. As far as jobs, and you might think this is BS, but I tool my SF background, earned a degree on my off duty time(on-line) and now currently work in the homeland security world for a governmental agency. I would also agree that a flying job(loadmaster) is a pretty good life, and worth considering. I was able to work embedded security with the aircrews, which was very cool. PM me if you want, I married a LA girl...
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Exactly.

If you know what you're getting into, not a problem. Believe the recruiter BS that you'll be rolling in a Crown Vic with an M9 chasing parked cars? Yeah..........sure.

I spent my time sitting in a Humvee with a machine gun waiting for the worst to happen. It never quite did, though we had many interesting times. Nowdays, SF=deployment. Whatever other job you have is irrelevant, you WILL deploy. Repeatedly. Since that was what i was after i had no problem with it, except they only sent me to Al Udeid (vacation spot)......whatever, it was better than no deployment.

If you know how to play the system you can get what you want. Go in blind? Yeah, you'll be guarding silos in the northern tier.
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Funny you guys should mention security forces. Back in the day when I was in 7 level school, out class leader was a MSgt cross-trainee. He knew exactly how many steps it took to go around a B-52. BTW, I forget the number, but it was a lot.
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23? I went through basic at 27, it wasn't bad.

I'm 2T2X1 - air transportation, in the reserves. Mindless job and there really isn't much of a future outside of UPS, FedEx or working for an airline. I joined for the GI Bill mainly, so that's not a concern for me.

We had a guy that F'd up and told a doctor he had asthma as a child when he went to sick call in basic. A few days later he was packing his bags and heading home. Hope you can get your waiver.

I wish I would have gone active out of high school, but that's long since passed. Listen to what others have said here. I've met several former load masters and a handful of linguists. All of them spoke highly of their former career. The former security force members I've met echo what has been said here as well. A few loved it while most could not wait to cross train.

If you have any questions about basic let me know. It's still fairly fresh in my mind and I went through the 8.5 weeks opposed to the 6.5 weeks.
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