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Old 05-09-2011, 11:07   #1
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Concealed carriers generally wear holsters,why?

quote: "Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster".

I am making a comment on RussP’s tread “LE perspective: dealing with legally carrying a concealed weapon “ and in the article the author makes a comment that “Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster“.
The question is why do you think they don’t?
is there an advantage to not wearing one?
Is there a “cool factor” involved?
Is it just a money thing ?
Is it just that they don’t know it is safer or just don‘t care?

lets face it.... it amazes me that they can carry a weapon in there pants with out one they are so loose

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Old 05-09-2011, 11:10   #2
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I think that in many cases felons haven't bothered to take firearms safety classes which typically encourage the student to carry their firearm in a holster(preferably a retention holster of some sort)
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:20   #3
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If we could all carry the way Jack Black carried the hidden 1911A1 as the Lead Farmer brought him to the Drug Gangs compound on the back of the water buffalo in Tropic Thunder we would not need holsters .

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Old 05-09-2011, 11:25   #4
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Why don't felons carry in a holster?

Well, for one thing they would have to go find/acquire a holster that fits the firearm they are carrying at that particular time. That is probably seen as an unnecessary hassle and, potentially, even something which increases risk/exposure.

It's probably easier to ditch the gun than the holster + gun.

Most holsters are designed to be worn on a belt.
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Old 05-09-2011, 18:03   #5
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If we could all carry the way Jack Black carried the hidden 1911A1 as the Lead Farmer brought him to the Drug Gangs compound on the back of the water buffalo in Tropic Thunder we would not need holsters .
I love that movie!
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:50   #6
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I think that in many cases felons haven't bothered to take firearms safety classes which typically encourage the student to carry their firearm in a holster(preferably a retention holster of some sort)
I live in Miami, FL they aren't ALLOWED to take these courses or allowed to go into gun ranges. I don't know if it's the same everywhere else
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:54   #7
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I think that in many cases felons haven't bothered to take firearms safety classes which typically encourage the student to carry their firearm in a holster(preferably a retention holster of some sort)
You're kidding, right?
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Old 05-09-2011, 13:00   #8
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You're kidding, right?
I don't think he understands that a "felon" cannot even TOUCH a firearm as long as their felony is on record. They could train with a toy gun possibly???


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Old 05-09-2011, 13:31   #9
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quote: "Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster".

I am making a comment on RussP’s tread “LE perspective: dealing with legally carrying a concealed weapon “ and in the article the author makes a comment that “Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster“.
The question is why do you think they don’t?
is there an advantage to not wearing one?
Is there a “cool factor” involved?
Is it just a money thing ?
Is it just that they don’t know it is safer or just don‘t care?

lets face it.... it amazes me that they can carry a weapon in there pants with out one they are so loose


If you understood the origins of the term "mexican carry", you would then understand the reason why those who illegally carry a firearm generally prefer to not use a holster.

F2blica understands the reason...
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If they have to ditch their "piece" quickly they're not caught walking around with a holster on their hip when a cop is questioning them.
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Old 05-09-2011, 14:07   #10
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If you understood the origins of the term "mexican carry", you would then understand the reason why those who illegally carry a firearm generally prefer to not use a holster.

F2blica understands the reason...
I agree. Most dont "carry" the gun. They keep it close, in their girlfriend's purse, under a car seat, etc...
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:19   #11
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If they have to ditch their "piece" quickly they're not caught walking around with a holster on their hip when a cop is questioning them.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:15   #12
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If they have to ditch their "piece" quickly they're not caught walking around with a holster on their hip when a cop is questioning them.
This. I took a school once on spotting concealed carry in the criminal element and it was pointed out at the school that felons don't want to get caught with a holster, it makes too many questions. the gun by itself is much easier to ditch.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:23   #13
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Good Guys: Carry firearms responsibly, appreciate the need for comfortable, all day carry, & want a consistent 'grab' on the firearm, when needed. A good holster will generally keep your firearm at the same cant, ride height, and location on the body for that consistency.

Bad Guys: no responsibilities, only carry a gun when they want to cause trouble or confront trouble, & don't like 'evidence' that they were carrying a weapon when confronted by a legal authority.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:24   #14
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Seems simple to me, retention.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:46   #15
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quote: "Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster".

I am making a comment on RussP’s tread “LE perspective: dealing with legally carrying a concealed weapon “ and in the article the author makes a comment that “Concealed carriers generally wear holsters! This is a key point. Most felons I have known or have heard about won’t carry a firearm in a holster“.
The question is why do you think they don’t?
is there an advantage to not wearing one?
Is there a “cool factor” involved?
Is it just a money thing ?
Is it just that they don’t know it is safer or just don‘t care?


lets face it.... it amazes me that they can carry a weapon in there pants with out one they are so loose
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:54   #16
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The purpose of my holster is to cover the trigger.

Thugs don't care if they endanger someone nearby with ND.
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Old 05-09-2011, 14:22   #17
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It's just one of those Catch-22 situations, like how the type of person who could sit down and plan the perfect crime is the type who wouldn't commit it, whereas the guy who does gets caught over something stupid.

Why do thugs tat themselves into oblivion and drive cars with busted lights, tacky rims, and temp tags that are 3 years old? Why don't drug transporters put on a suit and tie, have a clean shave, and if pulled over speak to the officer politely so he has no reason to suspect they have 100 kilos of coke in back?

Luckily, most thugs are stupid and therefore easier to catch. Generalities are generally true.

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Luckily, most thugs are stupid and therefore easier to catch, and that's why generalities are generally true.

This.
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They didn't take an NRA handgun course, so they don't know the 4 rules.

You can't draw from a holster when your pants are hanging down under your butt
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