Originally Posted by walrus108
How does your brass look with those 180gr XTP's with 11.0grs Bluedot? Any smiles at all? I have some new win brass and tons of BD with the same XTP bullets. I actually have a post about where to start with that load. Not much data out for the 180gr XTP's it seems. I was planning on using @9.5-9.7grs 800-x, but if you're having luck with 11.0grs BD, I may just load them starting at 10.5gr BD. In my experience, Glock barrels are pretty darn consistent producing velocity, and (I assume), pressure wise with a given loading. At least what your giving me is better than starting blindly basically.
I never had a smilely in my life. Buldged hog belly cases from the OEM barrel yes, smileys .. NO
There is a host of good load data out there for 180gr bullets for the 10mm. Lee 2nd edition, Hornady vol 6. etc.
Yeh you can run with the 180gr XTP 9.5grs/9.7grs/10.0grs/10.5grs, Bluedot. The 11.0grs is just a touch over max, and actually I have not seen a real difference in that and the 10.5grs BD. Hornady's max for BD and 180gr XTP at 1.260 COAL is 10.7grs.
Starting load for the 180gr XTP in Hornady #6, is 7.5grs for 950fps out of a 5" Delta Elite, then, working on up to 10.7grs max
for 1250fps in 5" Delta Elite.
The 200gr XTP in the same Hornady Vol #6, is 6.9grs BD for 850fps all the way through 9.4grs Max BD for 1150fps.
I do run the 10.5/10.7grs BD with the 180gr XTP mostly, and the 10.5 grs BD 'also' with the 200gr XTP at 1.260 COAL. Standard CCI #300 primers. Both of these give excellent results for me as you can see in the target pics.
Also the AA#9 11.5grs to 14.9grs max for 180gr XTP 1.260.
AA#9 9.7grs to 13.2grs Max for the 200gr XTP. CCI #300 1.260.
These loads in the G20 /G29 'stock barrel' have NEVER
caused me any issue, and I get the standard hog belly on the six o'clock area of the brass, but have never once had a smilely.. I do run steel rods and 21# springs in both guns...
As I said, there is a ton of load data for 180gr and 200gr bullets in the 10mm. I use Hornady vol#6 because these loads have worked so very well for me over the years, in XTP's and cast as well through the stock barrel and the LW barrel as well.
I have run a ton of the 11.0grs BD with the 180gr XTP, 1.260 CCI #300, in both the G20/29, and again, NO problems other than the standard hog belly in the OEM barrel. I only use the LW barrel to save brass life. I get all the accuracy I need as you can see in the targets above, at 35 and 40, and 50 and 100yds..with the oem barrel.
I am not an 800X fan because the powder is unstable and I do not trust it.
I do not like Long Shot, because to stay with the Hornady load data for an "XTP" bullet as they show, you will get not much more than a 40S&W load IF you stay with the Hornady manual load data for their XTP.
Going over that data
for LS has resulted in high pressure and other problems (for me) and I really put the screws to it and researched it. One may get buy with going 1/2/3grs over max with it, but one day..... !!!!
I like the BD and really like the AA#9 'very much' and these two give me all the vel I need (safely) for SD or for a Hard Cast bullet (200gr) for the Texas deer, should I want to use it for such.
I highly reccomend you look for the volume 6 Hornady manual. The NEW Hornady manual has 'CUT" the load data down quite a bit.. Number 6, Is a really good volume, as is Lee 2nd edition, and Mic McPhersons "Metalic Cartridge Reloading." He is a good friend of mine, and this is a really good load data book, every one needs this one.
Well amigo. Good shooting, and stay safe !
Hope this helps some !