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Old 09-23-2012, 09:48   #1
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Where else?

Without debating the politics, focusing on possibilities in the US leads to concerns over the future. We have preps...food, water, financial, protection, etc. But what about another option...leaving?

I know some are ademant...'I will not leave my country'. And having been to some places out of this country, I can say that we have so much that makes this country great. In addition, the best man from my wedding lives in Central America. He's doing very well there. However when the US faulters, he feels it there and is vulnerable to the US economy.

If you believe the US is facing an economic collapse, where could you go where you can earn a living, raise a family, possess firearms for self protection, and enjoy a good buffer from an economic collapse from the US?

Has anyone considered this? Where else? I cannot think of a country that is well buffered from a US economic collapse.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:29   #2
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:49   #3
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No where else. I won't even leave the South.
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:55   #4
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For those Boortz listeners, this is something that he's discussed several times lately.
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Old 09-23-2012, 13:52   #5
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If I had no family and no moral responsibilities here, I'd be open to the concept. But I have family (more than just my wife & sons), employees, and - to a much lesser degree - clients, that I'm responsible for. May not be legally responsible for the welfare of our employees or clients, but the fact is I'm not legally responsible for most of my family either; just personally feel that I should do as much as I can, for as long as I can, for them.

I've heard some folks mention south- and central-america. If I were thinking along those lines, it would probably be in those areas; but I really haven't given it much thought as it's not an option I've really looked into.
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Old 09-23-2012, 19:04   #6
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my inlaws have discussed this but im of the opinion that ive fought my whole life for whatever is left of this country and wont stop now.
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Old 09-23-2012, 19:52   #7
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It's 1930. Where would you go, even if you had the means?

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Old 09-23-2012, 21:19   #8
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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:45   #9
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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
This is the best answer - (although that last one ain't done with yet, I am afraid)..and this is my answer as well.

I have lived here during the good times, I imagine it's worth defending.

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:14   #10
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I don't understand why some people are talking about defending or fighting when the OP is talking about a economic collapse.

Too much Rambo and not enough Ramen will get you dead.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:18   #11
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Old 09-24-2012, 15:27   #12
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I don't understand why some people are talking about defending or fighting when the OP is talking about a economic collapse.

Too much Rambo and not enough Ramen will get you dead.
Agreed. I lived through cold war, carter, etc. too. However I don't want to leave a false impression. I was not in the military during any of these times and was a child during Vietnam (I'm 48). Yes, my Dad served our country...along with many others in my family. It's not a matter of fighting an enemy to save our nation using guns. It's a matter of possibly having a nation go through an economic collapse.

The challenge is finding a country that is not tied at the hip to the US economy, but also finding a country with freedom in the many areas that we presently enjoy here.

I know some mentioned UK, Ireland, and Canada...I just see those as being too dependent upon the US.
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Old 09-24-2012, 17:24   #13
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No where else. I won't even leave the South.
I completely agree with you!

That said I would bet that you would have a very hard time getting a country to let you in post SHTF. Most countries are very firm on protecting there borders and don't want the refugees of the U.S. as extra baggage.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:40   #14
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The challenge is finding a country that is not tied at the hip to the US economy, but also finding a country with freedom in the many areas that we presently enjoy here.
Good luck with that.

America is worth staying in, trust me. Even an economically weakened America beats most anywhere else in the world.

PS - You can dismiss my opinion if you since I don't buy into the complete collapse theories. Sure we have some hard times coming but I don't see a meltdown of the scale some here talk about.
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I don't understand why some people are talking about defending or fighting when the OP is talking about a economic collapse.

Too much Rambo and not enough Ramen will get you dead.
The OP said "If you believe in an economic collapse" - I don't. I thik it is bad and will get worse, especially if we actually tangle with Iran....

But I don't see the economy ever getting so bad that I will tuck my tail and flee to another country.

Oh and conversely, too much Ramen and not enough Rambo gets you just as dead. - not that I am a rambo type, but a healthy balance is key to most things.
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I survived the Cold War, the Soviet Union, the Berlin Wall, Vietnam, 1973 Oil embargo, Y2k, bird flu, mad cow disease, 9/11, anthrax, the patriot act, swine flu, cancer & Obama.

At this stage in my life I'm too old and too ornery to go running anywhere so come hell or high water... here I am and here is where I'm gonna stay!
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Old 09-23-2012, 22:33   #17
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:31   #18
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I have been around the world myself. No matter how bad it gets here in the US, I will never this country.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:56   #19
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I have family up North - as in Canada. I'll be sending the family up there if I sense things getting really hairy. My family network is far greater and less dependent that my wife's family here. 7 hour drive to the border from here if highways/border open.

Other than that fly them out if possible. Fat chance if the S is hitting the F.

I think reality is that things would happen pretty quickly and most of would have to stay put. JMHO.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:22   #20
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There are very few other places in the world that have our standard of living. Heck even our poor have flat screen TVs and cell phones.

Where could you go where they speak the same language, have a similar standard of living, have gun rights and all the other stuff we take for granted? I am pretty sure the socialism and restrictions in Great Britain, Australia, Europe and the political/institutional corruption in central and south America would drive most of us crazy.

The answer is not to move to another country, the answer is to move to THE country, as in rural America.
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