Pocket Carry Results in Negligent Discharge

jph02 · 10-01-2012, 11:58

Cocked gun goes off as Pontiac man reaches into his pocket

Too bad the article doesn't say what type of handgun he had. Good thing he had a CPL, but he may be liable to lose his CPL, his kid, or both.

dosei · 10-01-2012, 12:22

Based on the info it seems fair to surmise that he was not using a proper pocket holster, and he most definitely did not exercise proper trigger finger discipline.

RJ's Guns · 10-01-2012, 12:44

I would be interested to learn what handgun was in his pocket.

If the article is accurate, it was revealing to learn that “he forgot the gun was cocked when he reached into his pocket”.
RJ

NDCent · 10-01-2012, 12:49

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Originally Posted by RJ's Guns

I would be interested to learn what handgun was in his pocket.

If the article is accurate, it was revealing to learn that “he forgot the gun was cocked when he reached into his pocket”.
RJ

I'd like to know the same, but whatever flavor he shouldn't have had his finger on the trigger.

ChuteTheMall · 10-01-2012, 12:55

If it was actually cocked, I'm suspecting a revolver because most pocket-sized semi-autos seem to be hammerless.

Chris Chris · 10-01-2012, 12:59

If you are stupid you can shoot yourself in a lot of places when you draw or holster a firearm. Pocket carry is only one of them. That doesn't mean that pocket carry is inherently unsafe... only that some people are stupid; irrespective of where they carry.

FireForged · 10-01-2012, 15:51

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Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall

If it was actually cocked, I'm suspecting a revolver because most pocket-sized semi-autos seem to be hammerless.

if the guy accidentally managed a 10-13lb trigger pull on a revolver, he is a real goof. I dont read too much into the use of the word "cocked".. as most reporter just mean "its loaded"

Deaf Smith · 10-01-2012, 17:26

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Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall

If it was actually cocked, I'm suspecting a revolver because most pocket-sized semi-autos seem to be hammerless.

Sig and Colt make SA '1911' style pocket .380s. Might be one of them.

Deaf

C6vetter · 10-01-2012, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Deaf Smith

Sig and Colt make SA '1911' style pocket .380s. Might be one of them.

Deaf

Doubt it. My wife's Sig P238 380 ACP has a safety if you carry cocked and locked. You'd have to be very careless to AD that weapon.

ChuteTheMall · 10-02-2012, 07:50

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Originally Posted by Deaf Smith

Sig and Colt make SA '1911' style pocket .380s. Might be one of them.

Deaf

Possibly, but they are relatively rare and expensive enough to weed out most of the candidates for the Darwin awards.

Some other possibilities could be Walther PPK and clones, Makarov, or even the Saturday Night Specials such as Davis .380 or Raven .25 types, or Bryco, Jimenez, Cobra, etc. I'm thinking these are more likely to be carried cocked and locked by a tiny little safety, without a holster, and by someone who is not well trained.

Or the media could be wrong about it actually being cocked, and it could be almost anything, even a Glock or Kel-Tec.

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mrsurfboard · 10-01-2012, 13:40

Pocket carry with a proper holster is just plain stupid.

X-Centric · 10-01-2012, 14:17

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Originally Posted by mrsurfboard

Pocket carry with a proper holster is just plain stupid.

Please explain. I pocket carry with proper holsters.

krisspy · 10-01-2012, 14:31

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Originally Posted by X-Centric

Please explain. I pocket carry with proper holsters.

Pretty sure he meant "without".

mrsurfboard · 10-01-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by X-Centric

Please explain. I pocket carry with proper holsters.

That should have been "without"

Glockbuster · 10-01-2012, 13:56

If one is to carry without a holster in a pocket and the gun is not a revolver, then that is one of those times I favor an unchambered C3 weapon.

concretefuzzynuts · 10-01-2012, 14:28

A holster that covers the trigger and not having a cocked revolver would be the answer. Tough way to learn a lesson.

I pocket carry every day DAO in a deep holster.

SCmasterblaster · 10-01-2012, 14:58

I wonder if it was a Glock or some other pistol without a safety?

jph02 · 10-02-2012, 06:23

It appears there will be no charges, but will he get his gun back? And, he's still not out of hot water with Child Protective Services yet. Still no specifics about the gun itself.

Pontiac man with toddler accidentally shoots self; no charges expected

TDC20 · 10-02-2012, 10:05

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Originally Posted by jph02

It appears there will be no charges, but will he get his gun back? And, he's still not out of hot water with Child Protective Services yet. Still no specifics about the gun itself.

Pontiac man with toddler accidentally shoots self; no charges expected

Good safety tips from the Sheriff, but I'm disappointed that he didn't mention using a proper holster that completely covers the trigger and trigger guard. Of course, if he had, a large number of readers would probably think he meant a holster as one that is "worn on the hip", not a holster intended for pocket carry.

rednoved · 10-02-2012, 17:19

Sucks for him.

SCmasterblaster · 10-02-2012, 17:41

Does anyone know what model of gun was abused?

steveksux · 10-05-2012, 18:51

If you're carrying a cocked weapon without a safety in your pocket without a holster....

One way or another, sooner or later, one of you is going to get decocked.

Choose wisely.

Randy

SouthpawG26 · 10-04-2012, 13:46

I would say that negligent carry caused negligent discharge...

"The father, who has a license to carry a concealed pistol, said he forgot the gun was cocked when he reached into his pocket and it accidentally went off"

He forgot..

So, this begs the question, what would he possibly have done differently, had he remembered that it was "cocked"?

ChuteTheMall · 10-04-2012, 17:35

What a coincidence, that it "accidentally went off" at the same time that "he reached into his pocket."

I'll bet a crack investigative reporter might deduce that he pulled the trigger; too bad journalism is dead.

NEOH212 · 10-05-2012, 02:48

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Pocket Carry Results in Negligent Discharge

Imagine that! Nobody saw that one coming!

It serves him right. They make holsters for a reason.