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Old 10-06-2012, 08:11   #1
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If Americans came from...

http://i.imgur.com/nzmwC.jpg

Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:41   #2
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This should help explain it. http://cbcg.org/twobabylons.htm



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Old 10-06-2012, 09:28   #3
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This should help explain it. http://cbcg.org/twobabylons.htm



I need you to help me out. What does your link have to do with how evolution is misunderstood or misrepresented around here?

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Old 10-06-2012, 10:02   #4
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I need you to help me out. What does your link have to do with how evolution is misunderstood or misrepresented around here?

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Have you read the book?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:48   #5
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Have you read the book?
No, but my time is valuable, and while I've read a number of the articles that you've presented, I'm not likely to read this without even a hint to its relevance.

Why don't you distill the best 2 or 3 points for us.

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This should help explain it. http://cbcg.org/twobabylons.htm
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No, but my time is valuable, and while I've read a number of the articles that you've presented, I'm not likely to read this without even a hint to its relevance.

Why don't you distill the best 2 or 3 points for us.
The book appears to be a criticism of the catholic church. It draws repeated analogies between it and the ancient Babylonians which are assumed (although not proved) to be corrupt by the author. It further makes the claim that the modern day catholic church is actually a direct continuation of the ancient Babylonian system in some way. The author's central thesis being that catholics aren't really christians.

I'm not fan of the catholic church (or any church for that matter), but what this has to do with the topic of the thread is a mystery to me. If there is a chapter that deals with the issue of evolution then I couldn't find it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:52   #7
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When I grow up I want to finally figure out evolution, beings how it's so misrepresented and misunderstood, I'm just too dumb to comprehend it. Or maybe it's that I've got the discernment to know a lie when I see it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:07   #8
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Or maybe it's that I've got the discernment to know a lie when I see it.
That's exactly why you're not capable of grasping it. You don't even understand how off the mark this statement is. Evolution is conclusions drawn from mountains of evidence. It isn't a guy making a statement that may or may not be true. It's truth born of tons and tons of evidence and anything found to be untrue or impossible has already been discarded.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:46   #9
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When I grow up I want to finally figure out evolution
It's not too late, but there's no reason to wait.

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beings how it's so misrepresented and misunderstood
Around this forum, and by creationists in general, yes it is. If you think or claim that evolution claims that humans evolved from monkeys or modern apes or that we are the result of blind luck, then you misunderstand or misrepresent evolution.

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I'm just too dumb to comprehend it.
I don't think this is the problem.
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Or maybe it's that I've got the discernment to know a lie when I see it.
This is clearly not the answer. More likely is that you allow yourself to be blinded by religious dogma when you perceive evidence contradicting your interpretation of scripture.

Given that there is evidence from:
  • the fossil record
  • DNA
  • embryology
  • microbiology
  • biogeography
  • ...
Is there any actual evidence that you would care to present in your support of the "lie" claim?

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Old 10-06-2012, 19:51   #10
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Is there any actual evidence that you would care to present in your support of the "lie" claim?
I almost forgot, perhaps you would care to direct us back to The Manifester (of zzith fame) explaining Lattilution vs. Evolution

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When I grow up I want to finally figure out evolution, beings how it's so misrepresented and misunderstood, I'm just too dumb to comprehend it. Or maybe it's that I've got the discernment to know a lie when I see it.
Do you realize every generation since the crucifixion of Jesus thought it would be to one to see his return? He's still not here.
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Old 10-06-2012, 15:21   #12
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Do you realize every generation since the crucifixion of Jesus thought it would be to one to see his return? He's still not here.
Did you check the website in his signature?

If a monkey from the past travels in time and comes to tell him they are related he will still tell him Yehoshua is on the way. He is just stuck in traffic.
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Did you check the website in his signature?

If a monkey from the past travels in time and comes to tell him they are related he will still tell him Yehoshua is on the way. He is just stuck in traffic.
His sig is what I was responding to. Every generations thinks it will be the one. They're always wrong. Jesus said the people hearing him talk would live to see his return. Then the Church added the Millennial reign to give them until 1000 AD. That came and went and nothing happened. Then the New World was discovered (by the Europeans) and the Church decided the world wouldn't end until the American Indians had heard the Word of Christ. That has happened and the Jesus still hasn't come back. They're currently twisting in the wind, but I have no doubt some of them will find something to excuse the obvious. It's highly unlikely Jesus is going to come back.
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His sig is what I was responding to. Every generations thinks it will be the one. They're always wrong. Jesus said the people hearing him talk would live to see his return. Then the Church added the Millennial reign to give them until 1000 AD. That came and went and nothing happened. Then the New World was discovered (by the Europeans) and the Church decided the world wouldn't end until the American Indians had heard the Word of Christ. That has happened and the Jesus still hasn't come back. They're currently twisting in the wind, but I have no doubt some of them will find something to excuse the obvious. It's highly unlikely Jesus is going to come back.
And I didn't even knew what the rapture is until I came to this country.

Well, Jeebus wasn't taking me anyways.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:16   #15
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Do you realize every generation since the crucifixion of Jesus thought it would be to one to see his return? He's still not here.
You're misunderstanding the term "generation".
It doesn't mean a human life span.

Our present "generation" began with Adam and will end in the Book of Revelations.

That's what Jesus was referring to when he said, "this generation will by no means pass away until it sees the coming of the Son of Man".

Guys like you are totally lost in the details of the Bible and fail to see the true message it contains.

If you imagine evolution as the foundation and then overlay it with the creation theory, you'd realize that's there's plenty of room for both.

God has created man and inserted him into the evolution process at different intervals of time. Man has not and never will "evolve", yet he exists in the evolution process.
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Our present "generation" began with Adam and will end in the Book of Revelations.

That's what Jesus was referring to when he said, "this generation will by no means pass away until it sees the coming of the Son of Man".

Guys like you are totally lost in the details of the Bible and fail to see the true message it contains.
More "discernment" being used in the place of logic and basic reading comprehension.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:27   #17
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More "discernment" being used in the place of logic and basic read comprehension.
You have to discern what they meant by generation when the plain meaning of what was said turns out to be false. Can't leave something so blatantly false just sitting there waiting to be pointed out by any third grader that can read plain English.

That's why neanderthals went extinct. They couldn't master the art of discernment when it came to their holy book. When they would or could no longer cover up for Him, their God abandoned them.

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You're misunderstanding the term "generation".
It doesn't mean a human life span.

Our present "generation" began with Adam and will end in the Book of Revelations.

That's what Jesus was referring to when he said, "this generation will by no means pass away until it sees the coming of the Son of Man".
Any evidence to support this or is it just wishful thinking?
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If Americans came from the British, why can't the British speak English properly and Americans can? You ever listen to those guys speak???? Can barely understand them most of the time.

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If you imagine evolution as the foundation and then overlay it with the creation theory, you'd realize that's there's plenty of room for both.
NO! You do not get to use the work of scientists to try and twist your mythology to make sense. Your book says nothing of evolution. It says God made us on the 6th day and that he made us from clay. It says he made Eve from Adams rib. We know this to be nonsense. Your book had it's chance to get it right and it lost. End of story. There is no "Well maybe evolution is the process God used to create stuff." No... your book says 6 days... and it's wrong.

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