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Old 10-07-2012, 19:39   #1
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is there a political party I fit into?

Being in the spirit of election season, I can't really see there's a political party i really fit into so maybe y'all can figure out where I should be.

I'm against any gun laws & pro choice on abortion which seems to DQ me from the two parties.

against 3rd generation welfare queens, well really any welfare at all. Against foodstamps unless it's a short term thing like a brief run at unemployment.

I'm against "The war on drugs" as well. Feel they should legalize and tax it. let people kill themselves as they see fit.

Also believe any man who's not in prison should have the right to vote and own firearms. Be that a convicted felon or a kid in highschool. I don't believe in ANY gun laws at all, think the govt should be allowing drilling all over the country and keeping us away from our dependance on arabs.

Is there anything i fit into? I'm sure I can't be the only guy that doesn't fit into parties.
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Old 10-07-2012, 19:45   #2
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You're libertarian. They never make the ballet so just vote "R" for all your homies on GT
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:39   #3
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XDRoX hit the nail on the head. Just vote "R" if you want to keep your guns. Pro-life/ Pro-choice debate isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And almost anyone on either side of the aisle will agree with your view of welfare, unless they are far lefties.

This political party nonsense gets overplayed way to much. It is just not possible to have a party that fits everyone's views. And if you did nothing would get done, there would be major political strife all the time, or it would boil down to a group taking complete control of the Gov't. and kiss America goodbye.

I'm sure there are countries with at least 9-10 politcal parties and the Gov't. is in shambles.

Bottom line, just find canidates, local and nationally, that "might" protect your "CORE" interest. Most people I think tend to overlook the importance of electing local officals and not only the POTUS I hope that makes sense. Good luck!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 00:03   #4
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XDRoX hit the nail on the head. Just vote "R" if you want to keep your guns. Pro-life/ Pro-choice debate isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And almost anyone on either side of the aisle will agree with your view of welfare, unless they are far lefties.

This political party nonsense gets overplayed way to much. It is just not possible to have a party that fits everyone's views. And if you did nothing would get done, there would be major political strife all the time, or it would boil down to a group taking complete control of the Gov't. and kiss America goodbye.

I'm sure there are countries with at least 9-10 politcal parties and the Gov't. is in shambles.

Bottom line, just find canidates, local and nationally, that "might" protect your "CORE" interest. Most people I think tend to overlook the importance of electing local officals and not only the POTUS I hope that makes sense. Good luck!!!
In a lot of countries, particularly parliamentary democracies, there are many politics parties. To get a majority in parliament and form a government, several parties will often have to form a coalition. This is beneficial to smaller parties because they can enter a coalition with a larger party and get some of their policy preferences implemented. They would also have a say in electing the Prime Minister and cabinet. Imagine if something like this were done in America.

Imagine if, the Libertarian Party, for instance was able to gain a little more of a foothold here and start winning seats in Congress and neither the Democrats or the Republicans had a majority by themselves. The major parties would then have to try and get the support of the libertarians in order to have a majority. They would also have to try not to piss off the libertarian block because if they pulled their support nobody could get anything done. It would also de-stagnate politics in Washington.
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Old 10-08-2012, 00:06   #5
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You're libertarian. They never make the ballet
Yep, only RINOs make this ballet...

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Old 10-08-2012, 05:00   #6
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You're libertarian. They never make the ballet so just vote "R" for all your homies on GT
Everybody is a libertarian, when they describe themselves. Belonging to a political party is meaningless unless the party can accomplish something. Libertarians are just refusing to participate or accept blame.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:04   #7
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Everybody is a libertarian, when they describe themselves. Belonging to a political party is meaningless unless the party can accomplish something. Libertarians are just refusing to participate or accept blame.
That's ridiculous.
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You're libertarian. They never make the ballet so just vote "R" for all your homies on GT
I would agree. I support mandatory abortion and gun rights. But I also support deportation of illegals.
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Old 10-07-2012, 23:56   #9
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You will want to be Republican for this election. Obama's reelection means that we get three more liberal activist judges on the supreme court.

Remember that Heller -vs- D.C. and McDonald -vs- Chicago were both 5 to 4.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:14   #10
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You will want to be Republican for this election. Obama's reelection means that we get three more liberal activist judges on the supreme court.

Remember that Heller -vs- D.C. and McDonald -vs- Chicago were both 5 to 4.
The Supreme Court is one of the most important decision that will come out of this election. Elect Obama and the Court will be full of progressives for the next twenty years.
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Obama's reelection means that we get three more liberal activist judges on the supreme court.
How in the hell do you come up with that?

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:36   #12
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How in the hell do you come up with that?
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My advice? Pick which issues matter to you the most. You've made it pretty clear that you want the right to own firearms. You've also said you want women to continue to have the right to have abortions. Surely you can figure for yourself whether you think Obama will be successful in more restrictive gun laws or if Romney will be successful in restricting abortions. Don't worry about supporting one party or the other. Pick the one (or 5) issues that matter the most to you and figure out for yourself which positions the candidates will actually try to do something about in the next 4 years.
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How in the hell do you come up with that?
As Dubya said: "Political Capital". If they win a second term, they assume it's 'carte blanche'.
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Old 10-08-2012, 00:08   #15
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:35   #16
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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

Voting for a candidate who doesn't best represent one's own political views is cowardly. Rather than admitting it, many demagogues simply attack those who use their vote to express the freedom we are supposed to cherish.

Having said that, I admit to being cowardly in this election. I feel that it's more important to elect Romney than vote with my heart (and head,) for the reason that Fox stated above: namely, that the Supreme Court, which has become an activist panel, must not be allowed to become any more liberal. The chances of that, should Obama win (and given the age of the current appointees) are quite good.

If that happens, all is lost.
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Old 10-08-2012, 23:47   #18
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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

You got a selective memory. Ralph Nader helped get Bush elected in 2000 by dividing the progressive vote.
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This crap gets old fast.

Here on GT, everyone complaining about third party voters, saying they will cause Romney to lose the election.

Go to a Democrat forum like Democratic Underground, everyone complains about third party voters, saying they will cause Obama to lose the election.

That what "They" want you to think....They caint be that stupid...

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Old 10-09-2012, 06:46   #20
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This about sums it up! We know who the Freeloaders are voting for and until they are not allowed to vote, you better hang with us. The choice is Socialism or Mitt. I'm not a Mitt fan but just tired of feeding the tapeworms and breeders that turn into criminals because they get bored sitting around. Yes its's a pretty wide brush but 47% is just nuts and a real number.
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Old 10-10-2012, 21:31   #21
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For someone that's libertarian, this is really no worse than Romney winning. I'm not sure why people make this argument.

"If you vote for who YOU want to be president, then MY guy won't win."

Yeah, well, it's my vote.
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For someone that's libertarian, this is really no worse than Romney winning. I'm not sure why people make this argument.

"If you vote for who YOU want to be president, then MY guy won't win."

Yeah, well, it's my vote.

Your guy is Obama and so you are here to encourage gunowners to divide their votes on third party candidates.

Reelecting Obama, getting more liberal activist judges on the supreme court to destroy the 2nd Amendment, and getting new gun control bills passed into law. We know damn well that's your vote.

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Your guy is Obama and so you are here to encourage gunowners to divide their votes on third party candidates.

Reelecting Obama, getting more liberal activist judges on the supreme court to destroy the 2nd Amendment, and getting new gun control bills passed into law. We know damn well that's your vote.
That's me. I've spent untold hours posting on gun forums for the past 10 years or so, taken pictures of my fake gun collection and posted it online etc all so that I could post in this one thread about political parties a month before the election and get Obama elected by telling people to vote for the best candidate, not the best candidate of the 2 major political parties! My plan is finally being realized!

Seriously though...get your tin foil hat off long enough to understand that if you were put into an underground bunker for the next 4 years with no connection to the outside world, when you reconnect to the outside world and learn of what is going on politically in 2016, you would not even be able to tell if it was Romney or Obama that was elected without being told explicitly, They are mostly the same with a few different talking points. Neither are going to bring the real change that we need.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:08   #24
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Being in the spirit of election season, I can't really see there's a political party i really fit into so maybe y'all can figure out where I should be.

I'm against any gun laws & pro choice on abortion which seems to DQ me from the two parties.

against 3rd generation welfare queens, well really any welfare at all. Against foodstamps unless it's a short term thing like a brief run at unemployment.

I'm against "The war on drugs" as well. Feel they should legalize and tax it. let people kill themselves as they see fit.

Also believe any man who's not in prison should have the right to vote and own firearms. Be that a convicted felon or a kid in highschool. I don't believe in ANY gun laws at all, think the govt should be allowing drilling all over the country and keeping us away from our dependance on arabs.

Is there anything i fit into? I'm sure I can't be the only guy that doesn't fit into parties.
So you really think a person with a history of convictions for violent crime should be allowed to own firearms upon release from prison ?
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So you really think a person with a history of convictions for violent crime should be allowed to own firearms upon release from prison ?
Of course. I do too.

If a seasoned felon wants a gun to commit more crime, he'll get it. What good is a silly law? All it does is disarm the guy who gets out of prison and has reformed himself.

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