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10-10-2012, 06:40
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Fair share? Fine- How's THIS for FAIR SHARE?!?
".. the top ten percent of income earners in the United States pay in federal income taxes as opposed to any other industrialized nation in the world.
According to Moore, these earners pay almost half (45 percent) of the country's total taxes. This conclusion flies in the face of the liberal concept that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their "fair share" in taxes."
Read more: PICKET: New book shows U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...#ixzz28tpRxK9M
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10-10-2012, 07:20
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So what? They pay. Fine. A progressive tax structure works like that. Apply it to all "persons," including those fine "corporate person." Tax them up the wazo rather than letting them get a free ride. Tax them till the wingtippers can no longer have their bonuses. Tax them till they are out of business... or until than actually do real capital investment and real job creation in the U.S.
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10-10-2012, 07:48
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Originally Posted by Brucev
So what? They pay. Fine. A progressive tax structure works like that. Apply it to all "persons," including those fine "corporate person." Tax them up the wazo rather than letting them get a free ride. Tax them till the wingtippers can no longer have their bonuses. Tax them till they are out of business... or until than actually do real capital investment and real job creation in the U.S.
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You're serious, right?
How do you feel about 50% of the population contributing nothing? Is that fair?
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10-10-2012, 07:57
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My thoughts are a flat tax, on everyone, no exceptions, and if you do not work, you do not get a say (vote). By do not work, I mean freeloaders, who should and can work, but choose not to.
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10-10-2012, 08:04
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'Fair share' means ' you pay' ...
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They'd created a vast, permanently unemployed underclass, dependent upon the Republic's stupendous welfare machine for its very existence, and in so doing, they'd sown the seeds of their own destruction. No one could place two-thirds of a world's population on the Dole and keep them there forever without the entire system crashing . . . but how in hell did one get them off the Dole? -David Weber
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10-10-2012, 08:07
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Originally Posted by Skyhook
You're serious, right?
How do you feel about 50% of the population contributing nothing? Is that fair?
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It's been that way for decades.
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10-10-2012, 08:19
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Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
It's been that way for decades.
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So, the present system is historically unfair?
Ok.
What ever happened to 'Nobody rides for free'?
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10-10-2012, 08:24
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We didn't even cross the 40% threshold until the Obama regime; 42% in 2009, 41% in 2010.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/put...eturns-chart-6
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10-10-2012, 08:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyhook
So, the present system is historically unfair?
Ok.
What ever happened to 'Nobody rides for free'? 
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It simply wasn't well known how unfair it was until recently, because of media complicity.
The damn-nocrats are fine with it, and the republi-can'ts didn't want to have to do anything about it ...
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They'd created a vast, permanently unemployed underclass, dependent upon the Republic's stupendous welfare machine for its very existence, and in so doing, they'd sown the seeds of their own destruction. No one could place two-thirds of a world's population on the Dole and keep them there forever without the entire system crashing . . . but how in hell did one get them off the Dole? -David Weber
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10-10-2012, 08:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
It's been that way for decades.
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So was slavery.
That didn't mean it was right.
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10-10-2012, 10:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348
It's been that way for decades.
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Not exactly a smashing rebuttal there.
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10-10-2012, 20:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyhook
You're serious, right?
How do you feel about 50% of the population contributing nothing? Is that fair?
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"Feel?" Feeling hasn't got anything to do with it>
"Fair?" Even those who spout about the "fair tax" are careful to stipulate a floor for income. So... why is it fair to have a floor for the fair tax but, surprise... to not tax the income of poor people is an outrageous affront to the twits who get their shorts in a wad about such things... but have absolutely no problem with those (people and those faux corporate persons) who park their money off-short to dodge paying taxes?
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10-10-2012, 10:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucev
So what? They pay. Fine. A progressive tax structure works like that. Apply it to all "persons," including those fine "corporate person." Tax them up the wazo rather than letting them get a free ride. Tax them till the wingtippers can no longer have their bonuses. Tax them till they are out of business... or until than actually do real capital investment and real job creation in the U.S.
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"From those with the greatest ability, to those with the greatest need"
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In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
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10-10-2012, 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by countrygun
"From those with the greatest ability, to those with the greatest need"
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Why do you read such stuff?
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10-10-2012, 20:21
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Originally Posted by Brucev
Why do you read such stuff?
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To get to the roots of your inspiration
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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10-10-2012, 17:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucev
So what? They pay. Fine. A progressive tax structure works like that. Apply it to all "persons," including those fine "corporate person." Tax them up the wazo rather than letting them get a free ride. Tax them till the wingtippers can no longer have their bonuses. Tax them till they are out of business... or until than actually do real capital investment and real job creation in the U.S.
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Let me guess, you have an MBA. Is it from Harvard because all of theirs don't have a clue.
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10-10-2012, 17:47
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Originally Posted by Bruce H
Let me guess, you have an MBA. Is it from Harvard because all of theirs don't have a clue.
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Sounds more like the University of Havana. Wonder who signed his sheepskin...Raul, or Fidel?
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10-10-2012, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Snowman92D
Sounds more like the University of Havana. Wonder who signed his sheepskin...Raul, or Fidel? 
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You obviously are delusional. You don't have to live that way. There is help available. Contact your physician and see if he will call a prescription in for you.
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10-10-2012, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Bruce H
Let me guess, you have an MBA. Is it from Harvard because all of theirs don't have a clue.
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The little boys with their harvard mba's, whatever, are the ones who did such an expert job of crashing the U.S. economy. Blue collar Americans were busy going to work each day.
Why are you so impressed with the mba screw-up?
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10-11-2012, 05:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucev
The little boys with their harvard mba's, whatever, are the ones who did such an expert job of crashing the U.S. economy. Blue collar Americans were busy going to work each day.
Why are you so impressed with the mba screw-up?
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MBA is supposed to stand for Master of Business Administration, not Master of Business Assassination.
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10-11-2012, 09:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce H
MBA is supposed to stand for Master of Business Administration, not Master of Business Assassination.
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Exactly!
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10-10-2012, 17:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucev
So what? They pay. Fine. A progressive tax structure works like that. Apply it to all "persons," including those fine "corporate person." Tax them up the wazo rather than letting them get a free ride. Tax them till the wingtippers can no longer have their bonuses. Tax them till they are out of business... or until than actually do real capital investment and real job creation in the U.S.
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Wow. You really are evil.
Cool that is not.
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10-10-2012, 20:27
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Originally Posted by podwich
Wow. You really are evil.
Cool that is not.
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Evil? In the post-modern world, evil is just a silly word used by moralists. It has no place in discussions about business... or taxation. After all, if one cannot expect businesses to act in a morally but to always and only be concerned about their bottom line regardless of who gets hurt, then why oh why would anyone expect that a tax code would be moral, regardless of who gets hurt.
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10-10-2012, 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucev
Evil? In the post-modern world, evil is just a silly word used by moralists. It has no place in discussions about business... or taxation. After all, if one cannot expect businesses to act in a morally but to always and only be concerned about their bottom line regardless of who gets hurt, then why oh why would anyone expect that a tax code would be moral, regardless of who gets hurt.
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When you're collecting money at gunpoint, the last thing you want is to be dragged into a discussion about the morality of it all. The above is a tacit admission that taxation is morally no different than mob-extracted "protection money."
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10-11-2012, 09:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos
When you're collecting money at gunpoint, the last thing you want is to be dragged into a discussion about the morality of it all. The above is a tacit admission that taxation is morally no different than mob-extracted "protection money."
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There is a chinese turtle that passes waste through it's mouth. Here we have proof positive that there are people who have also mastered the ability to do exactly the same thing.
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