[OctoberRust]

More abortion, less crime?

Kind of like more guns, less crime?

Any theories on why this may be? Maybe like, instead of having the kid, and him/her living a messed up life with messed up kids, that a CHL holder has to shoot 20 years down the road because they're trying to rob them, the screw up parents that were never good enough to begin with have an abortion?

I don't know, but I'm digging the theory! Let's hear your theory on why abortion reduces crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legaliz...d_crime_effect

[TK-421]

Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats.

[OctoberRust]

Originally Posted by TK-421

Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats.

That would explain why more guns = less crime is viable too then.


Dang man, you just killed two babies with one stone.... No pun intended.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by OctoberRust

That would explain why more guns = less crime is viable too then.


Dang man, you just killed two babies with one stone.... No pun intended.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by TK-421

Seeing as how most republicans seem to hate abortion, and most democrats are okay with it, I'd say there's less crime because there's less democrats.

That is, basically, true. The people who have the most abortions seem to also be from the subcultures that commit most crime, so I figure there is always going to be some effect if they reproduce more or less. It may be too small to notice, or it may not.

There is, similarly, a reason the democrat party has been fighting to have every state automatically restore voting rights to felons when they leave prison, while the Republicans have been against it - felons are mostly democrats.

[GAFinch]

The Democrats have been replacing aborted babies with illegal immigrants, so that cancels out that crime rate change theory. I'd attribute the decrease more to the increase in concealed carry rights in states in the late 80's and in the 90's.

[Snaps]

makes sense, less unwanted kids that the parents want nothing to do with means less of those kids running the streets committing crimes. Yup, I can see it

[OctoberRust]

Originally Posted by Snaps

makes sense, less unwanted kids that the parents want nothing to do with means less of those kids running the streets committing crimes. Yup, I can see it

Same. Most likely less welfare recipients too. This is just win/win/win in my opinion.

[Woofie]

Make abortion mandatory.

[Snaps]

Originally Posted by Woofie

Make abortion mandatory.

yup... without a license.

If you're gonna let religion dictate your laws like they want to do on abortion might as well start running sharia law.

[Blast]

[CanMan]

I approve this message.

Steven Levitt of the University of Chicago and John Donohue of Yale University revived discussion of this claim with their 2001 paper "The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime". Donohue and Levitt point to the fact that males aged 18 to 24 are most likely to commit crimes. Data indicates that crime in the United States started to decline in 1992. Donohue and Levitt suggest that the absence of unwanted aborted children, following legalization in 1973, led to a reduction in crime 18 years later, starting in 1992 and dropping sharply in 1995. These would have been the peak crime-committing years of the unborn children.

[tnpatriot]

Some people consider the act of abortion to be murder. Murder is a crime. This train of thought means that more abortion equals more crimes. Just sayin'

[Alizard]

Originally Posted by Woofie

Make abortion mandatory.

Also retroactive?

[glockman66]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h
April 17, 2013, 6:55 p.m. ET
Henninger: Clinging to Guns—and Abortion
Everyone clings to something, and we now know what liberals cling to.

[glockman66]

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/28/a...if-born-alive/
Abortion Clinic Suggests “Flushing” Baby Down Toilet if Born Alive
by Steven Ertelt | Bronx, NY | LifeNews.com | 4/28/13 2:05 AM

[cowboywannabe]

before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.

[OctoberRust]

Originally Posted by cowboywannabe

before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.

Agreed. There's a LOT of things that shouldn't be funded with our tax money. I'm sure you'll agree with that statement as well.

[Ronny]

Originally Posted by cowboywannabe

before anybody could have a serious debate about abortion, the abortions being done should not be paid for with our tax dollars.

once its a pay from your own pocket deal then you can debate it with society.

From a fiscally conservative point of view tax payers should fund all abortions. Paying $500 for an abortion now can prevent a couple hundred thousand in welfare and health care payments in the future than it's a good deal. It is a liberal hair brained policy to defund abortions and keep the welfare flowing to people who can't support their own kids.

[Mrs.Cicero]

Originally Posted by Ronny

From a fiscally conservative point of view tax payers should fund all abortions. Paying $500 for an abortion now can prevent a couple hundred thousand in welfare and health care payments in the future than it's a good deal. It is a liberal hair brained policy to defund abortions and keep the welfare flowing to people who can't support their own kids.

That same "logic" says we should exterminate everyone on (permanent) disability.

[Ronny]

Originally Posted by Mrs.Cicero

That same "logic" says we should exterminate everyone on (permanent) disability.

Ironically that is the position supported by many on these boards. Simply "let them work or starve" to death is a refrain I've read many times. And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".

[OctoberRust]

Originally Posted by Ronny

Ironically that is the position supported by many on these boards. Simply "let them work or starve" to death is a refrain I've read many times. And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".

Let them starve themselves. Keep the government out of helping, or exterminating.

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Ronny

And the ironic part is that most who voice such opinions are strongly "pro-life".

You have to realize that they're not "pro-life", they're "pro-fetus". They want that kid to stay alive inside his mommy's tummy for the entire nine months, and don't you dare touch it or abort it. But once the mom gives birth and the kid is out? That's when they don't give a flying **** about it. That's when they tend to endlessly piss and moan about food stamps, welfare, and whatever else they ***** about.

[Harper]

Where's the video that was posted the other day showing crime has the strongest correlation to illegitimacy? That's why abortion lowers crime.

[Mrs.Cicero]

Here is an example of an abortion mill increasing the number of crimes - the bit about using scissors to cut through the spinal cords of 100+ babies BORN ALIVE is particularly revolting. Oh, yeah, the dead and mangled mothers might bother some people, too.



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...&lite=obinsite