[flw]

In Illinois to buy ammo you must present a curent FOID card (Firearms Owners Identification Card).

I've bought ammo online from three out of state places online. Two of the three had me email a copy of my FOID to them before shipment of ammo. One didn't. I read there shipping policy and even during the order process there was no mention of being from Il and the need to show a valid FOID card.

My concern is this is they type of situation that the media loves to try stop our online right to interstate commerce.

I don't know what is legally required by non-Illinois ammo sellers to Illinois buyers but it seems like a shortcut that will get law abiding citizens rights reduced again....

In short we are not doing ourselves any favors by little shortcuts. BTW- Gun show last weekend in Il and all vendors asked for my FOID. Lets not give them a reason to take away our rights.

[SCmasterblaster]

That I don't live anywhere near the 21st state.

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster

That I don't live anywhere near the 21st state.

Same here, I'm so glad to be gone, and not have to worry about such asinine laws.

[SCmasterblaster]

Originally Posted by TK-421

Same here, I'm so glad to be gone, and not have to worry about such asinine laws.

I WISH that I could live in TX.

[Warp]

Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster

I WISH that I could live in TX.

Your carry laws are 20 times better than they are in TX

[flw]

I'm pro gun and I have a FOID card so it is not of issue to me.

My concern is if a anti-gun person w/o a FOID ordered ammo online and the used the media/general public to urge the President to hurry and close the "loop holes" as they want to see them.

Anti-gunners using the lack of consistency in interstate commerce to change laws or policy's is what concerns me.

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Warp

Your carry laws are 20 times better than they are in TX

Eh, I don't know, partly yes, partly no, if I have my facts right. If I have my facts right, Vermont doesn't issue CCW permits, which means other states can't reciprocate, which means he can't carry in any state other than Vermont, unless he got a non-resident permit from another state. But that usually requires owning land in the permit-issuing state. So while Vermont does have lax gun laws, and one of the lowest gun crime rates in the country, I wouldn't want to live there.

However, if I got my facts wrong and Vermont started issuing permits, then I apologize for not being totally up to date.

[SCmasterblaster]

Originally Posted by Warp

Your carry laws are 20 times better than they are in TX

I would think that the CCW laws are agreeable in TX.

[hotpig]

As a on line dealer it is not my responsibility to know your laws. State and local laws are to numerous and change so often that even people in those jurisdictions can not keep up.

Since the company is not in the upside down state reporting him to ISP does no good. He did not break any federal laws so ATF is out. His State does not enforce Illinois law so they are out.

The only option that I see is maybe burning his house down as a warning. Maybe shooting his wife and raping his dog.

Seriously if you feel that strong about it buy from some one else.

[Warp]

nvm...

[SCmasterblaster]

allows non-IL citizens to pass thru IL with ammo no problem.

[Warp]

On a similar note...have you noticed that you can order "repair kits" for standard capacity (>10 rounds) magazines, which consist of every single part needed to build a fully functioning magazine, and have them shipped into 'ban states' like HI, CA, NJ, etc?

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Warp

On a similar note...have you noticed that you can order "repair kits" for standard capacity (>10 rounds) magazines, which consist of every single part needed to build a fully functioning magazine, and have them shipped into 'ban states' like HI, CA, NJ, etc?

Oh absolutely, but you better not send them a completed magazine, because that's illegal.

Although I do wonder if it's illegal to possess them in those states. However, it's not exactly something I worry about, because I refuse to live in states with capacity bans.

[FishyOne]

I'm from IL and a former FOID holder. An IL resident can drive to Iowa or WI and buy all the ammo they want, no questions ask. I know that's a different situation entirely but more food for thought.

[rwrjr]

Originally Posted by flw

My concern is this is they type of situation that the media loves to try stop our online right to interstate commerce.

Seems to me that you're fighting the wrong battle.

[ChiefWPD]

I tried ordering some ammo from Natchez Shooter Supply, for shipping to my place in AZ. They wouldn't sell the ammo to me because my billing address is in MA. Go figure.

[Wake_jumper]

Originally Posted by flw

In Illinois to buy ammo you must present a curent FOID card (Firearms Owners Identification Card).

I've bought ammo online from three out of state places online. Two of the three had me email a copy of my FOID to them before shipment of ammo. One didn't. I read there shipping policy and even during the order process there was no mention of being from Il and the need to show a valid FOID card.

My concern is this is they type of situation that the media loves to try stop our online right to interstate commerce.

I don't know what is legally required by non-Illinois ammo sellers to Illinois buyers but it seems like a shortcut that will get law abiding citizens rights reduced again....

In short we are not doing ourselves any favors by little shortcuts. BTW- Gun show last weekend in Il and all vendors asked for my FOID. Lets not give them a reason to take away our rights.

You should turn yourself in to the Illinois State Police immediately. If you took delivery of the ammo you are in BIG trouble buddy.

[Warp]

Originally Posted by FishyOne

I'm from IL and a former FOID holder. An IL resident can drive to Iowa or WI and buy all the ammo they want, no questions ask. I know that's a different situation entirely but more food for thought.

I actually bought ammo from a Walmart in Indiana, not far from the Illinois border, and the employee working the counter said they would not sell ammo to IL residents unless they showed a FOID, by policy. I guess that is pretty unusual?

[FishyOne]

Originally Posted by Warp

I actually bought ammo from a Walmart in Indiana, not far from the Illinois border, and the employee working the counter said they would not sell ammo to IL residents unless they showed a FOID, by policy. I guess that is pretty unusual?

Don't know if it's unusual or not. Iowa and Wisconsin have no restrictions other than being 18 years old for long gun ammo.

I'm 48 years old (no ID required to prove it!) and don't even need to produce an ID to buy handgun or long gun ammo in Iowa or WI.

[pipedreams]

Originally Posted by Warp

I actually bought ammo from a Walmart in Indiana, not far from the Illinois border, and the employee working the counter said they would not sell ammo to IL residents unless they showed a FOID, by policy. I guess that is pretty unusual?

We have a lot of IL. residents that shop in Iowa in our area and some stores will ask if your a Iowa resident when buying ammo. I have no idea how they can tell if your a resident since they don't ask for your ID.

[SCmasterblaster]

Originally Posted by pipedreams

We have a lot of IL. residents that shop in Iowa in our area and some stores will ask if your a Iowa resident when buying ammo. I have no idea how they can tell if your a resident since they don't ask for your ID.

Maybe their accent?

[FishyOne]

Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster

Maybe their accent?

That's funny! I'm from Galesburg, IL originally. Live in Dubuque, IA now. People think I'm from Tennessee because of my southern accent!

I was at Scheels in the Coral Ridge Mall tonight. Bought a box of 38sp P+ and the cashier didn't even ask for an ID. The way it should be!

[hotpig]

The FOID is a line that the Chicago area Politicians will not cross. We stand a better chance of CCW than getting rid of the FOID.

We could have CCW tomorrow if the NRA would allow it to pass with Home Rule Cities being allowed to opt out. NRA has killed it twice that I know of because they want all or none. It is unlikely we will have all in our life times.

[cheapshot]

Originally Posted by hotpig

The FOID is a line that the Chicago area Politicians will not cross. We stand a better chance of CCW than getting rid of the FOID.

We could have CCW tomorrow if the NRA would allow it to pass with Home Rule Cities being allowed to opt out. NRA has killed it twice that I know of because they want all or none. It is unlikely we will have all in our life times.

Being from west central Illinois myself, i'd like to say that you, sir, are absolutely correct. The NRA is in cahoots with Madigan evidently. It's a damn shame that so many people in a state are dictated to by a few in a small region of said state. Something is amiss with the NRA's position of "all or none". There are enough reps in the crook county region that have stated that they won't support a bill that includes crook county. Does this mean they will support a bill that doesn't? Guess we'll never know as long as the NRA is holding downstate Illinois hostage.

[hotpig]

I'm one of these people that actually calls the Legislators and talks to them on both good and bad votes.

I have had a number of the anti gun legislators tell me that down state can have wild west shootouts if they want. They will vote for it if they can opt out.