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12-26-2012, 09:42
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Gun confiscation!!!
Okay, I see the mad rush at all the lgs to purchase ar's ak's ammo,mags, etc etc.How many would participate in a mandatory buy back? Now im reaching but,,, lets say the fed decides to "confiscate" firearms on a ban list, how would they go about it??? UN, our troops, local pd, atf,dhs,fbi???? Who in all honestly would comply? Lets start with local pd's, do we really think that they would do a door to door? Would they say oh, hell no were not doing that, would it depend on which state? Would the fed flood the country with agents? I will say I believe if the "UN" comes in then we have a very big problem, foreign troops on American soil, participating in something that is in direct violation of the U.S. constitution.
I just wonder how far this could go. Is it just alot of political talk to make it sound like they are trying to please their constituants? Will the awb of the 90's just be reintroduced? Where what is out there already is grandfathered? I wonder if anything will even come of this as it might just be left up to the states to decide.
Sorry for the long rant, im off this week, its raining out and im just bored, so lets hear it?
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12-26-2012, 16:47
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Maybe for the rest of America! They are not confiscating my guns! I'll be dead or in federal prison first.
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12-26-2012, 16:52
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I don't think I would want to be going door to door trying to take guns from the hillbillies in Kentucky, the Appalachians or south Arkansas.
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12-26-2012, 17:08
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I don't see confiscation being a viable nationwide option. The amount of resources required would be well beyond what I believe we (as a nation) are capable of, especially when you think that it would not be wise to send just 1 LE person to each residence.
If retroactive, I would expect the law would require you to turn them in or risk a significant fine & or jail. Then, you'd be unable to use them at the range, be in trouble if you possessed one in a traffic stop or some other unrelated encounter with LE, etc. Basically they would work to purge them from being in the hands of citizens by intimidation and attrition.
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12-26-2012, 18:12
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Originally Posted by jdavionic
I don't see confiscation being a viable nationwide option. The amount of resources required would be well beyond what I believe we (as a nation) are capable of, especially when you think that it would not be wise to send just 1 LE person to each residence.
If retroactive, I would expect the law would require you to turn them in or risk a significant fine & or jail. Then, you'd be unable to use them at the range, be in trouble if you possessed one in a traffic stop or some other unrelated encounter with LE, etc. Basically they would work to purge them from being in the hands of citizens by intimidation and attrition.
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This is what I was thinking. I only see it happening in the left states.
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12-26-2012, 18:30
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Ever heard of things like DUI checkpoints; insurance checkpoints, seat belt check points, Terry stops, etc. They will get you when you least expect it. They will make it so your only option is to hide it away or bury it. Using it will not be an option. You want even be able to talk about it without fear of being informed on for cash via crime stoppers.
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12-31-2012, 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
I don't see confiscation being a viable nationwide option. The amount of resources required would be well beyond what I believe we (as a nation) are capable of, especially when you think that it would not be wise to send just 1 LE person to each residence.
If retroactive, I would expect the law would require you to turn them in or risk a significant fine & or jail. Then, you'd be unable to use them at the range, be in trouble if you possessed one in a traffic stop or some other unrelated encounter with LE, etc. Basically they would work to purge them from being in the hands of citizens by intimidation and attrition.
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prior to election of 2008 potus discussed a civilin defence force, that would be the begining
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12-31-2012, 11:01
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Originally Posted by 57cal
prior to election of 2008 potus discussed a civilin defence force, that would be the begining
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First off, welcome to GT!
I recall the comments by Obama. And I would agree that simply because he has not recently mentioned the idea, it certainly doesn't mean that he doesn't desire to implement such an idea. However the current political climate would not be receptive to such an idea...which is likely why it remains buried in his bucket.
So while you're certainly correct in your recollection, I would respectfully disagree that this method would be used for implementing any kind of gun confiscation program. I seriously doubt that trained LE would not want to go door-to-door. Yes, I remember Katrina, however so do most Americans. And on a national level, this type of mandate would be incredibly dangerous to impose. Throw in a civilian, untrained defense force and I think most folks would anticipate the results would not be desired. Therefore I just don't see it.
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12-31-2012, 12:39
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Originally Posted by 57cal
prior to election of 2008 potus discussed a civilin defence force, that would be the begining
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It would not be that hard to implement such a Group build with volunteers Freedom Corp has a nice ring to it and TSA and Fema employees.
There are many people in this country that would jump at the chance of being employed by the .gov and also get special treatment.
Throw in some half ass training for a week, arm and mandate them and you could be up and running in 2 month tops.
If you hear something like this happening I suggest you start running for the hill very fast like.
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12-31-2012, 08:35
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Originally Posted by NEVRL8T
I don't think I would want to be going door to door trying to take guns from the hillbillies in Kentucky, the Appalachians or south Arkansas.
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nor in Cajun Country.. we have a lot of aligators..
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12-26-2012, 18:32
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What guns? No one has guns here, this is a social club.
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12-26-2012, 19:59
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Originally Posted by janice6
What guns? No one has guns here, this is a social club.
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We all like to talk big.
Stories around the camp fire.
The fish was this big.
But much like Big Foot, it's just a legend.
Privately owned guns?
No way.....
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12-26-2012, 19:02
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This will not happen this go round. Git yer panties out of a wad.
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12-31-2012, 08:38
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Originally Posted by concretefuzzynuts
This will not happen this go round. Git yer panties out of a wad.
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the American Indians did not think so either..
America has become a nation of sheep.. most want to be led
into corrals and become part of the 47%
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12-31-2012, 08:43
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Part of the 47%???? more like 75%
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12-29-2012, 10:29
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Nobody came to get guns in 1934
Nobody came to get guns in 1968
NObody came to get guns in 1989
Nobody came to get guns in 1994
and Nobody will come to get guns in 2013
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12-29-2012, 10:45
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Originally Posted by FireForged
Nobody came to get guns in 1934
Nobody came to get guns in 1968
NObody came to get guns in 1989
Nobody came to get guns in 1994
and Nobody will come to get guns in 2013
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They don't have the resources and there is no need to add the resources. They are working to criminalize those who own them by forcing you to register each one and pay money to retain the ownership. Combine this tactic with ammunition restrictions, and they are working to make ownership as difficult as possible.
There's no need to bang on doors. There are much more cost effective and safer ways to accomplish the same goal - impose further restrictions on our rights.
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12-30-2012, 07:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
I don't see confiscation being a viable nationwide option. The amount of resources required would be well beyond what I believe we (as a nation) are capable of, especially when you think that it would not be wise to send just 1 LE person to each residence.
If retroactive, I would expect the law would require you to turn them in or risk a significant fine & or jail. Then, you'd be unable to use them at the range, be in trouble if you possessed one in a traffic stop or some other unrelated encounter with LE, etc. Basically they would work to purge them from being in the hands of citizens by intimidation and attrition.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
Yep...if you are caught hunting with one, you get in trouble. If you use one in self defense, you get in trouble.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
They don't have the resources and there is no need to add the resources. They are working to criminalize those who own them by forcing you to register each one and pay money to retain the ownership. Combine this tactic with ammunition restrictions, and they are working to make ownership as difficult as possible.
There's no need to bang on doors. There are much more cost effective and safer ways to accomplish the same goal - impose further restrictions on our rights.
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All of the above statements are absolutely correct! This is exactly how its going to be done...Not by door to door confiscation.
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01-01-2013, 17:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireForged
Nobody came to get guns in 1934
Nobody came to get guns in 1968
NObody came to get guns in 1989
Nobody came to get guns in 1994
and Nobody will come to get guns in 2013
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THIS!!!!........
and all this talk about passing a new ban.......
Bill Clinton came out publicly and said he wished he had not pursued the AWB in 94' because it costs a lot of his buddies their seat in congress because they voted for that BS crap...
all these goons are talking tough, but now that the emotion has died down they are going to think about what happened to their congressional comrades being unemployed in congress after voting for the AWB.....
of course people like schumer and feinstein will vote for it....
they don't have to worry about their senate seats because the people they represent are total IDIOTS, and will vote for them regardless
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01-01-2013, 22:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireForged
Nobody came to get guns in 1934
Nobody came to get guns in 1968
NObody came to get guns in 1989
Nobody came to get guns in 1994
and Nobody will come to get guns in 2013
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12-29-2012, 11:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdavionic
They don't have the resources and there is no need to add the resources. They are working to criminalize those who own them by forcing you to register each one and pay money to retain the ownership. Combine this tactic with ammunition restrictions, and they are working to make ownership as difficult as possible.
There's no need to bang on doors. There are much more cost effective and safer ways to accomplish the same goal - impose further restrictions on our rights.
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You are right sir, this will only push things into the shadows and alleys. The black market will surge so on and so forth. Politicians, especially the ones we have now are a joke. They no longer represent the people...Everyday our dynasty merges further and further away from the path. Hate to say it but, our dynasty will fall...
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12-29-2012, 11:05
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Disregard
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12-29-2012, 11:18
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Ammo been buying it cheap and stacking it deep, I could see this coming a year ago.
I'm set I can only use one gun at at time, my AK is configured for self defense with a few parts change I can configure it for hunting, and I do hunt with it.
They won't go door to door they know it would result in a civil uprising of gun owners.
I don't think as this bill is in it's current form has a snowballs chance in hell of passing
just my 2 cents
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12-29-2012, 11:39
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If there is a mandatory buy-back/confiscation situation, hypthetically, I am sure I will have sold my guns before then. Sorry, no guns here, Officer...
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12-29-2012, 14:09
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Although I don't think it will come to this at least not yet.
If it ever would come to this I would do one of 3 things.
a: hide them all.
b: join a militia "most likely"
c: sell all my guns and ammo to the biggest militia for $1 and legal private transfer and tell the feds to go pound sand.
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