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Old 01-12-2013, 22:01   #1
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Worst Locations Post-SHTF

Seems to me, the worst thing one could do post SHTF would be either heading to the panic stricken mass of bodies which will be the local super Walmart... or to get on the interstate which will undoubtedly just be a gridlocked route full of desperate impatient people.

I was thinking of this earlier, and it adds all the more reason to just stay put, should something happen.

Thoughts? Any other "worst locations"?
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Old 01-12-2013, 22:06   #2
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:43   #3
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Old 01-12-2013, 22:16   #4
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"Fixed fortresses are a monument to the stupidity of man." - Gen GS Patton.

Nothing wrong with prepping, but there is a point where you WILL be forced by some circumstance to vacate your permanent dwelling. For the suburbanites that are stockpiling years of food, you better have a bug out plan! History does not support the bug in plan... refugees are the norm in any conflict.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:45   #5
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"Fixed fortresses are a monument to the stupidity of man." - Gen GS Patton.

Nothing wrong with prepping, but there is a point where you WILL be forced by some circumstance to vacate your permanent dwelling. For the suburbanites that are stockpiling years of food, you better have a bug out plan! History does not support the bug in plan... refugees are the norm in any conflict.
I think Patton was referring to actual fortresses.

The problem with bugging out is that you're not going to be able to take all your preps with you (unless you're not all that prepared to begin with). And if you have a stocked bug out location, doesn't that then become your "fixed fortress"?

What you're saying is that you'll never be able to stay in one place indefinitely. This means you'll need several bug out locations as one by one each one is compromised and you're forced to bug out again.

And while refugees are the norm in most conflicts, they do not represent the majority of the population. Further, refugees normally flee to neighboring countries, not different locales within the country experiencing the conflict.

Of course, much depends on what the actual SHTF situation is and whether it is local, regional, national, or global.

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Old 01-12-2013, 22:44   #6
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Love these kinds of posts. What *kind* of SHTF? Let's start there.
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Old 01-12-2013, 23:18   #7
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Love these kinds of posts. What *kind* of SHTF? Let's start there.
Lets say, widespread natural disaster. Large earthquake for example. Something which would hinder routes of transport, electricity, and supply chains for hundreds of miles.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:45   #8
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Lets say, widespread natural disaster. Large earthquake for example. Something which would hinder routes of transport, electricity, and supply chains for hundreds of miles.
That is the WHAT, how about the:
-WHEN (winter,summer, etc),
-WHERE (NYC, Key West Fl, Nome AK, ?),
-WHO (city dweller in high rise, suburban in ranch home, rural on farm, etc)
-HOW MUCH - what resources does the prepper have?

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Old 01-13-2013, 07:40   #9
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Love these kinds of posts. What *kind* of SHTF? Let's start there.
So true.

What amazes me is that people come here and ask questions as they did. I often wonder; 'Do they live their daily life like this?' Do, they use the term like SHTF as if there is only one? I can not see such people as good preppers. Good preppers pay attention to the details.
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Old 01-12-2013, 22:46   #10
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Old 01-13-2013, 00:40   #11
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Travelling, in any major city - away from all of your stuff and resources.

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Old 01-13-2013, 13:06   #12
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Initial stages bug in but wait and see before bugging out because getting caught up in the panic of the initial flight of the masses does nobody any good other than get yourself killed.
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I've wondered about that question before. I live right next to the worlds largest military complex. Would I be safer here or worse off? Is this place a fortress or a target?
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I've wondered about that question before. I live right next to the worlds largest military complex. Would I be safer here or worse off? Is this place a fortress or a target?
Depends on the scenario. In even a limited nuclear war I would get as far away from there as possible.
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I've wondered about that question before. I live right next to the worlds largest military complex. Would I be safer here or worse off? Is this place a fortress or a target?
Way too simple to answer right off the bat like that.

What kind of complex? Armory? Air Base? Port? Depot?

Also, what is the level of access there? One road? Open roads? Limited access roads?

Are you in the zone where someone who wants to hit the base would hit you as collateral damage? What if they quarantine you and you can't get in the base? You're SOL just like anyone else.

What if the military wanted to cordon off themselves and do a scorched earth around a perimeter so they can clear the path all around for their security? You might be collateral damage too.

Too many variables.
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Way too simple to answer right off the bat like that.

What kind of complex? Armory? Air Base? Port? Depot?

Also, what is the level of access there? One road? Open roads? Limited access roads?

Are you in the zone where someone who wants to hit the base would hit you as collateral damage? What if they quarantine you and you can't get in the base? You're SOL just like anyone else.

What if the military wanted to cordon off themselves and do a scorched earth around a perimeter so they can clear the path all around for their security? You might be collateral damage too.

Too many variables.
I'm going to let you do the research.
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Old 01-13-2013, 14:02   #17
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The worst place to be?

Any large city, or a suburb surrounding a large metropolitan area;

Too many people, not enough resources.
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The worst place to be?

Any large city, or a suburb surrounding a large metropolitan area;

Too many people, not enough resources.
+1 to this ^
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Old 01-13-2013, 17:09   #19
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The worst place to be?

Any large city, or a suburb surrounding a large metropolitan area;

Too many people, not enough resources.
The correct answer.
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