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Old 01-21-2013, 19:53   #1
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So I had a little mishap shooting reloads today.

Today while out shooting some reloads something went terribly wrong. My G21 exploded in my hand. I've been reloading for about 18 months and starting to feel more comfortable with the whole process but I think its safe to say I did something wrong.

I'm thinking that I might have accidentally double charged the culprit but I'm not exactly sure. Earlier in the day I was measuring my rounds through a chronometer and everything was normal. I did shoot round nose lead that was hot (990-1000fps) so I stopped and switched to 200 grain roundnose with 5g's of Bullseye @ an average of 890fps.

Whatever it was it scared the bejeebus out of me. Below are some pictures. My trigger finger is bruised and swollen, my pride is a little hurt, my G21 is done for but other than that, fortunately all is ok. It felt like a bomb went off in my hand and I had to take about few minutes to gather my sense.

Becareful out there boys (and girls).

Below are pictures. Your opinion and experience is appreciated.

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Old 01-21-2013, 19:59   #2
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Wow! I'm so Glad you are ok.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:00   #3
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I think double charge.
The only gun ever demolished on our range was a .357 magnum with a top load of Bullseye, almost certainly doubled.

You will get Internet Diagnoses of "out of battery" and "lead in a Glock" even though with aftermarket barrel.
But I think it just way too much fast powder.

Hatcher shows a fragmented 1911 that took 12 grains of Bullseye to ruin.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:00   #4
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What press are you using?
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:08   #5
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What press are you using?
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:11   #6
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Now I see you weren't using the stock barrel. Glock will not likely help you with this one. Sorry.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:01   #7
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Ouch, i cant help with why, but am glad your okay.


OUCH!
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:03   #8
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Wow. Glad you're ok.
double charge maybe?
I damaged the back plastic rails on my G21. LGS asked me if I was shooting reloads. He sent it to Glock, and they gave me a new frame and magazines. Free. I'm not sure what happened with my pistol. He did tell me to if Glock called and asked if I was shooting lead to deny it. I wasn't.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:14   #9
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WOW!
I can't believe how it split the barrel lug like that
Glad your ok!
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:51   #10
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WOW!
I can't believe how it split the barrel lug like that
Glad your ok!
Most of the stainless barrels I've seen that experienced a double charge / or obstructed barrel split - although this one is most impressive....

.....the OEM barrels seem to bulge rather than split.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:18   #11
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Most of the stainless barrels I've seen that experienced a double charge / or obstructed barrel split - although this one is most impressive....

.....the OEM barrels seem to bulge rather than split.
The hammer forging process usually yields a stronger barrel. Not to mention most tool steels with the proper heat treat are stronger than the stainless used in most barrels.

I am not sure if companies like KKM, Storm lake and etc machine their barrels from bar stock, a casting or a forging though.

I am not surprised the barrel split the way it did. I would think the barrel failed due to a squib there would be a bulge closer to muzzle from the squib load bullet being stuck in the barrel. I still think this was a double charge.

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Old 01-24-2013, 14:13   #12
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The hammer forging process usually yields a stronger barrel. Not to mention most tool steels with the proper heat treat are stronger than the stainless used in most barrels.

I am not sure if companies like KKM, Storm lake and etc machine their barrels from bar stock, a casting or a forging though.

I am not surprised the barrel split the way it did. I would think the barrel failed due to a squib there would be a bulge closer to muzzle from the squib load bullet being stuck in the barrel. I still think this was a double charge.
I would think it depends on where the obstruction is. If it's at the end, you get the banna peel or bulge, depending on pressures. IF the bullet were stuck just inside the bbl, dbl of fast pwoder like BE, I could see the chamber letting go, but since no one really knows what exactly happened, it's all a guess.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:07   #13
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Here are few more...

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Glad you weren't seriously hurt.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:10   #15
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The silver lining, as my son put it, I guess we're getting a new Glock!
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:15   #16
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Due to the carnage I would say double charge as well. At least you were not seriously hurt.

You could always contact Glock tell them you blew up your gun and it was your fault. See what they say. They may give you a break on a replacement gun. Who knows.
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Whatever it was it scared the bejeebus out of me.

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Wow, glad you are are ok.


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Old 01-21-2013, 20:12   #18
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Holy crap!

I am glad that you are ok other than that finger contusion.

As others have said, the most simple explanation is probably the correct explanation: probably a double charge of a very quick-burning powder.

I don't think a "bulge buster" or "pass through" die will fix that brass.

Thank you very much for posting these photos. A reality check now and then is good to see. Sorry about your gun!
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Glad you're ok.
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Old 01-21-2013, 20:16   #20
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Good to hear that you weren't seriously injured!

I would agree with the others about the double charge. I am paranoid about that happening so I try to make a habit of always looking down inside the case before placing a bullet into position. Also, I use Alan's Press Monitor to help make sure I haven't got distracted using my 550B. I go a little slower reloading than I could but I feel more confident that I am less likely to have a similar accident.

Also, thanks for sharing with us. You have reminded all of us that it could happen to anyone!

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