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Old 01-24-2013, 13:48   #1
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This is the new approach I'm taking with anti gun people,

Remind them of what they don't like about the government and that they're advocating so hard to give a monopoly on the use of force to that same government... and the corporations that controls it. It's making them stop and think more than anything else I've tried.



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" I saw this yesterday and I rolled my eyes and blew it off as another right wing anti-occupy jab that needed no further consideration. Then I gave it further consideration. This is exactly what so many on the left are asking for. It may not be what they want but it's what they're asking for. So many times since this most recent shooting I've heard the cries that only police and military should have guns or should have "those types of guns". This is the police force that you want to hand more power to. This is what you're asking for, a police state that you will be completely powerless to resist no matter how far they go because you've happily and willingly disarmed yourselves and everyone else. You're trying your best to make sure that the agents of the rich and powerful get to have the big guns and we don't. You scream and cry for tougher gun restrictions for everyone but the elite that can get whatever they like.

You really don't want to do anything. You just want somebody else to do something. It's just like the right keeps saying about you."

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Old 01-24-2013, 13:52   #2
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Remind them of what they don't like about the government and that they're advocating so hard to give a monopoly on the use of force to that same government... and the corporations that controls it. It's making them stop and think more than anything else I've tried.



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" I saw this yesterday and I rolled my eyes and blew it off as another right wing anti-occupy jab that needed no further consideration. Then I gave it further consideration. This is exactly what so many on the left are asking for. It may not be what they want but it's what they're asking for. So many times since this most recent shooting I've heard the cries that only police and military should have guns or should have "those types of guns". This is the police force that you want to hand more power to. This is what you're asking for, a police state that you will be completely powerless to resist no matter how far they go because you've happily and willingly disarmed yourselves and everyone else. You're trying your best to make sure that the agents of the rich and powerful get to have the big guns and we don't. You scream and cry for tougher gun restrictions for everyone but the elite that can get whatever they like.

You really don't want to do anything. You just want somebody else to do something. It's just like the right keeps saying about you."
quite hypocritical coming from someone that voted for one of the biggest proponents of big government out there..
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Old 01-24-2013, 15:00   #3
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quite hypocritical coming from someone that voted for one of the biggest proponents of big government out there..
I'm telling you what works in my experience. If you get more pleasure out of calling everyone a liberal nut job than you get from maintaining gun rights then carry on. See how much those people care about your guns with that approach.

Do you want to change minds or are you just in need of somebody to point at and ***** about? Never mind. I know the answer to that question.
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Old 01-24-2013, 15:10   #4
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I'm telling you what works in my experience. If you get more pleasure out of calling everyone a liberal nut job than you get from maintaining gun rights then carry on. See how much those people care about your guns with that approach.

Do you want to change minds or are you just in need of somebody to point at and ***** about? Never mind. I know the answer to that question.

Please explain how voting for Obama helps maintain your gun rights. Give specifics. If you get more pleasure out of calling people wing nuts than your gun rights, carry on.
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Old 01-24-2013, 15:40   #5
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Please explain how voting for Obama helps maintain your gun rights. Give specifics. If you get more pleasure out of calling people wing nuts than your gun rights, carry on.
I didn't vote for Obama to help maintain my gun rights. I voted on many other issues that you and your compadres here don't care about. I'm not single issue.

I can ignore any new gun laws just like I used to ignore the pot laws that republicans are so happy to subject us to and just like those pot laws, the gun laws will be ignored by so many people right along with me that the government won't be able to do much about it except waste money fighting it until people start to wake up to the stupidity of prohibition.
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Old 01-24-2013, 16:45   #6
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I didn't vote for Obama to help maintain my gun rights. I voted on many other issues that you and your compadres here don't care about. I'm not single issue.
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Old 01-24-2013, 17:21   #7
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I didn't vote for Obama to help maintain my gun rights. I voted on many other issues that you and your compadres here don't care about. I'm not single issue.

I can ignore any new gun laws just like I used to ignore the pot laws that republicans are so happy to subject us to and just like those pot laws, the gun laws will be ignored by so many people right along with me that the government won't be able to do much about it except waste money fighting it until people start to wake up to the stupidity of prohibition.
I doubt most of us here are single issue voters. The difference is, we prioritize our issues. Being that gun rights have been under constant attack, and this is an issue that shouldn't even be up for discussion as it is already outlined as an "inalienable" right in our founding documents, this issue is at the top of the list. As it should be.

If the roles were switched - if Obama, with his same ideologies, had said during the debates that we did not need any new gun laws, and Romney, with his same ideologies, had said the opposite - I'd have (begrudgingly) pulled the lever for Obama instead.

Instead, you gave up your country so dudes could marry other dudes. Or was it so that the gubment could have a say in what a women does with her va-jay-jay? Either way, you chose that as a priority over an "inalienable" right.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:58   #8
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I can ignore any new gun laws
Good luck with that.

And how do you "ignore" no longer being able to buy a new AR?

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Old 01-25-2013, 21:12   #9
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That's sigline material right there.
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Old 01-24-2013, 15:14   #10
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quite hypocritical coming from someone that voted for one of the biggest proponents of big government out there..
In fairness to haver of gun, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then...
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Some people see the businessman as their enemy, therefore government must be their friend. Others see the government as the enemy, therefore business must be their friend. Some on GT will bash the liberal (and deservedly so), but still maintain a delusion about how American business operates on some textbook level and validates capitalism.

The scenarios play out in everyone's head, as long as there is a steady diet of TV's politics/entertainment of Either-Or. All one need to do is dig slightly deeper and witness the truly disgusting level of public-private partnerships in America today.

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Old 01-24-2013, 18:58   #12
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quite hypocritical coming from someone that voted for one of the biggest proponents of big government out there..
Quite. Op claims to not want gun control, and argues that empowering the government is a bad thing... then turns around demanding entitlements and empowers leaders who *gasp* want a totalist state.
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Old 01-24-2013, 19:08   #13
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I think TxGun was right in a way. This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners which is actually working but it's real purpose seems to be to demonstrate that on GTPI the real concern isn't gun rights, it's finding every possible opportunity to ***** about liberals.

Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
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Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
if it excludes you, I'm all for it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:05   #15
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...This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners ...
Why would you go to a firearms oriented website to argue with liberal gun banners?

Would you go to Jiffy Lube to buy clothes?
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Why would you go to a firearms oriented website to argue with liberal gun banners?

Would you go to Jiffy Lube to buy clothes?
I believe he meant to argue with himself...
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Old 01-25-2013, 18:12   #17
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Why would you go to a firearms oriented website to argue with liberal gun banners?

Would you go to Jiffy Lube to buy clothes?
Um, obviously I meant a way for YOU to argue with liberal gun banners. One that actually works. I know the temptation to fling insults is overwhelming but try to keep up here.

Or you could just keep calling them lazy useless people that need a machete between the eyes and then wonder why they want to take all the guns away from your crazy asses.
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I think TxGun was right in a way. This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners which is actually working but it's real purpose seems to be to demonstrate that on GTPI the real concern isn't gun rights, it's finding every possible opportunity to ***** about liberals.

Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
You vote for a gun grabber, you're a gun grabber. No such thing as a pro gun liberal. Liberal gun owner, sure. Not a pro gun liberal. You can't vote for your big government social programs and vote for your second amendment rights at the same time.

I wouldn't call you a liberal, you've demonstrated that you're more in the Marxist bucket.

It has become obvious that people like you who can't understand that a government big enough to give you free healthcare and all sorts of social programs paid for with money confiscated from other people, is big enough to take away your guns.
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You vote for a gun grabber, you're a gun grabber. No such thing as a pro gun liberal. Liberal gun owner, sure. Not a pro gun liberal. You can't vote for your big government social programs and vote for your second amendment rights at the same time.

I wouldn't call you a liberal, you've demonstrated that you're more in the Marxist bucket.

It has become obvious that people like you who can't understand that a government big enough to give you free healthcare and all sorts of social programs paid for with money confiscated from other people, is big enough to take away your guns.
Correction, it's big enough to take away everything, including health care, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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I think TxGun was right in a way. This thread started as a way to argue with liberal gun banners which is actually working but it's real purpose seems to be to demonstrate that on GTPI the real concern isn't gun rights, it's finding every possible opportunity to ***** about liberals.

Go ahead fellas, keep up the exclusionary tactics and see how far that gets you.
On occasion, it helps to broaden your perspective. 8 years of Obama doesn't mean that there won't be a republican back in the White House. Look at the last 40 years. The death of both parties has been declared after just about every election.

Exclusionary tactics are exactly what we need. You are right that posters here are small potatoes, the purge needs to happen at the top of the party.

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