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Old 08-23-2007, 08:16   #1
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ATTN: University STudents, Stand Up For Your Rights!!!

To all University students:

WE NEED YOUR HELP in gaining support for our cause. What cause is that, you ask? Getting states or universities to allow concealed carry on campus. I am the Miami U. (Ohio, not Florida) representative of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (SCCC). Back in the spring, a friend of mine who is the rep for U. of Cincinnati had the great idea of holding an empty holster protest to show that state laws and/or university policies have reduced CHL holders to just that: empty holsters.

But we need your help. We have an event listed on facebook http://facebook.com/event.php?eid=2359003596 but last time I checked there were only about 70-80 confirmed individuals. Wear an empty holster (OWB, shoulder, something visible that looks like a holster!) during the week of Oct. 22 (that's 10/22) and wear it ALL WEEK! The point is that we want to generate debate! We want our classmates to ask us why we're wearing holsters! We want to let people know how responsible CHL holders, how they've gone through background checks, training, etc. and that we don't go around shooting people for the hell of it.

Send me a PM if you need an invite to the event or if you have any questions about the protest or SCCC and what you can do to help.

Beg, borrow, or steal a holster! You don't even have to have a CHL but as long as you support the rights of licensed individuals then we need your help! If someone asks you if you have a CHL and you don't want to answer honestly, lie!
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:16   #2
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I won't be participating in the "stand", but it could be a potentially good thing I suppose. I could see the rent-a-cops becoming flusterd, that might spiral downwardly, but who cares about that?

I don't care to wear a holster visibily, especially in a no carry zone.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:28   #3
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This is a non-violent awareness protest that we're doing.

A holster doesn't have anything to do with violence. You have to make that clear with the university.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:36   #4
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I'm posting in the general thread, and I joined the FB group.

Carl Rutherford.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:06   #5
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I could see the rent-a-cops becoming flusterd, that might spiral downwardly, but who cares about that?

You might want to consider that none of the state universities in MS utilize "rent-a-cops". The all have full-service, state accrediated Police Departments with real police officers who carry real guns and real handcuffs and can really take you to a real jail...really quick . That applies in many other states as well. Purposefully taunting them would not go well and arrests would definitely hurt your cause (one that I agree with wholeheartedly) as well as result in a lot of folks losing their state CCW's.
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Old 08-23-2007, 13:03   #6
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I'm attending a community college presently, but I've attended MSU and worked security (Army ROTC) athte home football games. At EMCC, they use rent-a-guards, who can't carry guns because one had a ND 3 years ago while sitting on the pooper, she shot herself in the back side or foot.

Actual cops, such as at MSU, are well equiped, decently trained, and quite level headed.

The rent a cops (actually guards), are economically depressed folks who wear ill fitting uniforms and occasionally get on power trips.

My point (that I made in the other thread) was to inform the higher ups, so they can take the steps necessary to insure everything stays peaceful. The who cares part was in reference to who cares if they get flusterd, if you're not breaking the law, you're fine. Carrying an empty holster isn't a passive action, it's intent is to generate a reaction/debate.
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Lumberjack,
Roger that. Just wanted to make sure everyone understood that most larger Universities and Colleges employ actual Police Officers. Back in my day, USM only had Security Guards. We treated them like jokes. Basically, we ignored them. Or, if we were feeling particularly energetic, we ran from them. That usually resulted in vomiting large amounts of beer and pizza, but not an arrest. Those days are changed, however. As you pointed out, a whole lot of University PD's are extremely proficient and professional at what they do. If things were to "spiral downwardly", as you put it, folks could end up locked up. And that is never good.
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