Match grade slide lock (revisited)

TexasPOff · 04-02-2008, 23:47

I finally got around to testing my new Match grade slide lock agains't the stock OEM part. This test was by no means scientific, but was pretty impressive at least to me. The Pistol late model 3rd Gen G23. Modifications AmeriGlo Pro series night sights, Ghost tactical connector, and a polish job, compliments of TR Graham. The rounds were standard 180 grain Remmington target fodder nothing special. My little test was conducted at a local indoor range. I shot 11 rounds from 25 yards, about a round per second, with the OEM slide lock. Rounds were point of aim at center of target. Reloaded magazine with 11 more rounds, same ammo from same lot and box. Tore the pistol down replaced the slide lock with the MGSL, took about 45 seconds and fired again from the 25. Notice the difference in group size. Yes the group was shot to the right to see a comparison. I must say I am impressed with this inexspensive drop in part. What the MGSL does is allow a more consistant repeatable lock up on the barrel. In essance it works much like a match grade link does in the 1911 platform. It will not affect the reliablity of the pistol, as it works just like the OEM slide lock. The part is made to exacting tollerances compared to the stamped OEM part. Anyway hats off to TR Graham for a great part in my opinion, this one is staying in my 23. if you are looking for a little better accuracy out of your Glock try this before you go the barrel route. It is much less exspensive, plus if you do decide on a barrel, it will make it work even better.

g20sf · 04-03-2008, 02:25

could you post some info about how to optail these pieces so that I may get them for my babies, sounds like a piece that I would add to all of my already modified glocks.

Thanks,

Jon

TexasPOff · 04-03-2008, 06:55

TR Graham can be reached at (832)695-7192, or emai at GRHM458@CS.com. Great guy to deal with. The MGSL is $30.00, and super easy to install. The MGSL is the one on top. You can see the area where the barrel locks into is smaller than the OEM. The MGSL is lightly extended as well allowing for easier take down. It is hard to see in the pictures, but the OEM slide lock is actually bowed a little. TR explaind that with a stamped part this sometimes happens. This can also be a mechanical contribution to your Glock not shooting POA. It can cause shooting left of right. The one I have here is a pretty good one as you can see the wear marks are fairly even. TR said look at your slide lock, and there will usually be wear more on one side than the other. This is an effect of the part not being true, or straight. The MGSL is laser cut harded steel, and is very true. My 23 shoot POA to begin with, so this wasn't an issue for me.

gsarg · 04-03-2008, 15:06

I have one, and I'm impressed with the part. YMMV

jdleejr · 04-24-2008, 22:35

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Originally Posted by gsarg

I have one, and I'm impressed with the part. YMMV

Did it change your grouping as well?

txsteve · 07-04-2008, 13:55

I have them installed on all my glocks except the 36. It is frustrating shooting without one installed. Well worth the small cost.

gsarg · 07-05-2008, 13:48

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Originally Posted by jdleejr

Did it change your grouping as well?

Yes it did. I never benched it, though.

seattleglocker · 08-22-2008, 22:45

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Originally Posted by TexasPOff

TR Graham can be reached at (832)695-7192, or emai at GRHM458@CS.com. Great guy to deal with. The MGSL is $30.00, and super easy to install. The MGSL is the one on top. You can see the area where the barrel locks into is smaller than the OEM. The MGSL is lightly extended as well allowing for easier take down. It is hard to see in the pictures, but the OEM slide lock is actually bowed a little. TR explaind that with a stamped part this sometimes happens. This can also be a mechanical contribution to your Glock not shooting POA. It can cause shooting left of right. The one I have here is a pretty good one as you can see the wear marks are fairly even. TR said look at your slide lock, and there will usually be wear more on one side than the other. This is an effect of the part not being true, or straight. The MGSL is laser cut harded steel, and is very true. My 23 shoot POA to begin with, so this wasn't an issue for me.

Is it just the photo or is the groove cut in the top slidelock top photo, much wider on the right side than on the left?

Noponer · 08-22-2008, 23:16

I am not a skeptic of the MGSL. As I said in the beginning, I must believe those who say it works because I have not tried it. I may buy one & see what it does for me. I was not attempting to discredit the MGSL or TR Graham; if someone has taken it that way, I apologize.

Also, just because I do not agree with someone's explanation of the mechanics does not mean that I do not understand the explanation.

JohnKSa · 08-23-2008, 00:31

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...just because I do not agree with someone's explanation of the mechanics...

Did you try pressing down on the barrel/chamber with the gun in lockup?

That should satisfy you that the barrel and locking block are not usually in contact when the gun is in battery. In fact, the small lip on the bottom of the barrel is held against the slide lock by recoil spring pressure. From that point it should be easy to understand why the smaller groove in the MGSL puts the barrel lip (and therefore the barrel) in a more consistent position compared to the larger groove in the standard slide lock.

jdleejr · 04-24-2008, 22:34

Did it change you grouping as well gsarg?

matthewdanger · 07-08-2008, 17:07

I am very intrigued by this part and ready to plunk the cash down to try one but I haven't gotten a response from Mr. Graham. Has anyone had success in contacting him?

dday27 · 07-08-2008, 21:03

I talked to him lastnight and ordered one, Very nice guy....

T. R. Graham · 07-08-2008, 22:04

Gents,

Sorry if I've not got back to anyone who has tried to contact me, but I've haven't checked my email in a few days....busy, busy....

Right now, the best way to contact me is to call. (see TexasPOff's second post for the number.)

However, I've just got done answering a slew of emails.

And for all of you who have my MGSL, thank you for your kind comments.

scottschoe · 08-13-2008, 20:31

Received mine today..install was a snap. Hope to break it in this week/end.

**Delta-x** · 08-24-2008, 06:31

There was a time when I didnt like Glocks. T R Graham changed that for me.
He is the Medicine Man of the Glock in my opinion.
If he says this part will improve accuracy, etc. , it will.
I will order one for my G30.

Snapper2 · 08-24-2008, 11:27

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Originally Posted by Delta-x

There was a time when I didnt like Glocks. T R Graham changed that for me.
He is the Medicine Man of the Glock in my opinion.
If he says this part will improve accuracy, etc. , it will.
I will order one for my G30.

+1 to that. I had one on my G30 but took it off to put on my G27(for carry). Time to buy another at the next gun show. I bought T.R.'s dvd, its excellent and he doesn't try to promote any of his parts on it either. Its all just knowledge about Glocks and how to take care of them.

Civitas · 08-24-2008, 22:01

It doesn't seem that anyone has done a blind test with this part and that bothers me. It would take about 5 minutes and 20 rounds of ammo. Is that too much to ask? If you believe in this part and think others should give it a try, just do the test.

BOGE · 08-25-2008, 00:59

As soon as I get the part I'll use (test) it (as stated henceforth) like a courtesy car to a cathouse!!

jbirds1210 · 08-25-2008, 06:44

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Originally Posted by Civitas

It doesn't seem that anyone has done a blind test with this part and that bothers me. It would take about 5 minutes and 20 rounds of ammo. Is that too much to ask? If you believe in this part and think others should give it a try, just do the test.

Suggestion-

If it worries you that much.....you buy one and do the test.

**Delta-x** · 08-25-2008, 07:04

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Originally Posted by Civitas

It doesn't seem that anyone has done a blind test with this part and that bothers me. It would take about 5 minutes and 20 rounds of ammo. Is that too much to ask? If you believe in this part and think others should give it a try, just do the test.

Several posters have extolled the merits of this part, with their accounts of
the match grade slide lock on their guns. For such a small expenditure
(30 bucks) it wont break your bank..... Or maybe you should pass on it.

skyboss_4evr · 08-13-2008, 20:51

Broke mine in today in my G23. Noticeable improvement!

4MUL8R · 08-16-2008, 11:35

After 250 rounds, G34 is locking up with precision.

KahrMan · 08-16-2008, 12:00

I'm curious, will this MGSL make ammo that has a longer OAL have a harder time feeding into the barrel? Or Is this a non-issue?

Thanks

V12 · 08-16-2008, 12:17

An absolutely fantastic product.