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Old 09-29-2008, 16:28   #1
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Is anyone UNDECIDED on the Presidential candidates?

I've been reading all the posts around the Obama and McCain and began to wonder...

Is there anyone in this forum that is still undecided?
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Old 09-29-2008, 16:45   #2
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Not at all, already voted
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Old 09-29-2008, 17:00   #3
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I can't see how people can be undecided. We know what each candidate and each party stands for.
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Old 09-29-2008, 17:11   #4
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I can't decide whether I am going to vote third party or just not bother voting at all.
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Old 10-02-2008, 20:19   #5
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I can't decide whether I am going to vote third party or just not bother voting at all.
The reality of that statement is that your vote will benefit Obama
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Old 09-29-2008, 19:01   #6
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Well, it's a choice this year between a ****** bag and a turd sandwich...I think I'll just abstain....




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Old 09-30-2008, 23:15   #7
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I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:13   #8
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I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.
Are you a gun owner?
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:33   #9
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Are you a gun owner?
See his other posts in other threads...he and Barry only disagree on that issue in that we should need paperwork for full-auto's. He thinks Obama really can cut taxes for 95% of people. (By giving non-income tax payers a check so he's then "cutting" their sales tax expenses...only problem is he'll get those checks through OUR income taxes)


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Old 10-01-2008, 08:38   #10
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Are you a gun owner?
Yes, I own 8 firearms. I have been a gun owner my entire life. I agree and share many of Obama's views. On gun control, we dont agree on "assault" weapons. But because I dont agree with him on his assault weapons standpoint, I am not NOT going to vote for him.

But hey, he is increasing his lead over McCain in the states that matter, OH, FL, PA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081001...18ElEyr3Vh24cA

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Old 10-02-2008, 21:53   #11
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I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.
So you would rather have things WORSE?
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Old 10-02-2008, 22:06   #12
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The choices this election stink. Politics in general stink. But I'm voting McCain to keep Obama out of office. Liberalism, will be the death of America.


Honestly, though, I sometimes think it doesn't matter who gets elected...
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:20   #13
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So you would rather have things WORSE?
Well, things could get a little worse... If McCain and Obama didnt put aside politics and vote to pass the $700 billion dollar bailout like they did. Hats off to them both.
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Old 10-07-2008, 21:57   #14
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Well, things could get a little worse... If McCain and Obama didnt put aside politics and vote to pass the $700 billion dollar bailout like they did. Hats off to them both.
Hey how is that bailout going? Hats off to them, eh? Wait, how many economists were against it? Oh thats right all of them, but the liberally bias ones.
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Old 10-14-2008, 16:04   #15
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I am very DECIDED. I'm gladly and proudly voting for Obama. I am sick and tired of the way things have been. End of story.
And a short while later you write that you will NOT vote for him?

For me, the choice is easy. McCain is pro-gun. He gets my vote.
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Old 10-14-2008, 18:12   #16
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Old 10-15-2008, 14:45   #17
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Poor guy, still smoking the Republican fixed peyote. Barack isnt a Muslim, and never has been.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:33   #18
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well stated johnmeredith.
First of all, I apologize if this is a personal attack on you, meshmdz; your political views aren't terribly popular here, true, but they are yours, and as a human being with free choice and an American citizen with the right to express such, you can't be faulted for doing so.

Based on the above, and your reactions on another thread, I question whether you are morally qualified to be a commissioned officer in our Nation's military. Why would you choose a career in the armed services if you agree with the views above? You know very well that you might be ordered to take part in missions which involve 'stomping all over the world,' as JohnMeredith puts it, yet by your own admission in the thread I mentioned, you will obey ANY order you're given, regardless of your own convictions--up to and including disarming your fellow citizens at gunpoint.

It would be hypocritical enough to join the military in any capacity, but you're training to be a leader of men, whose lives could depend on your judgment and discretion. Say you give an order, and your PSG or (if you're a company commander) your 1SG, who are soldiers who will be likely much older and more experienced than you, tell you their consciences will not permit them to carry out your order--they believe them to be unlawful as well as immoral--what then? You'll be expected, naturally, to be an example of both integrity and good judgment as well as an authority figure.

So...why the decision to be a military officer? And if it's not too prying, which branch and MOS were you applying for? Maybe people here who have served in your chosen field can provide you with more input.

Ho-kay, back on topic...

Hm. I have to admit I've been more convinced by some of McCain's recent interviews and talking points. If he'd only tighten up his stance on illegal aliens I'd feel more reassured. Joe the plumber has thrown some fresh dung onto the fire for Obama, too.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:45   #19
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Who can I vote for?

I have decided:

Obama Sucks
McCain Sucks
Bush Sucks

Yes, I am a gun owner but I find it difficult to decide based on one issue, even when it is the gun issue.

I have voted in every election since 1976, I may skip this one or write in someone.


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Old 10-01-2008, 10:09   #20
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Is anyone UNDECIDED on the Presidential candidates?
I had decided to vote, but probably for a write in.

I respect McCain but because he will give the illegal aliens amnesty and I believe he will sign any anti gun legislation sent to him, and a few other things, I do not want him to be President.

I think Obama is TOTALLY unqualified to be President and he gives me the creeps. I wouldn't trust him to manage a 7-11 much less the country. He's a TOTAL ZERO. If nothing else, picking Biden for VP shows what a dumb ass Obama is.

Since the Republicans were smart enough to get Palin for VP I'll wote for her. McCain can come along but I don't like it.
I think with four years experience as VP, Palin will be the next, and first woman, President.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:58   #21
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I had decided to vote, but probably for a write in.

I respect McCain but because he will give the illegal aliens amnesty and I believe he will sign any anti gun legislation sent to him, and a few other things, I do not want him to be President.

I think Obama is TOTALLY unqualified to be President and he gives me the creeps. I wouldn't trust him to manage a 7-11 much less the country. He's a TOTAL ZERO. If nothing else, picking Biden for VP shows what a dumb ass Obama is.

Since the Republicans were smart enough to get Palin for VP I'll wote for her. McCain can come along but I don't like it.
I think with four years experience as VP, Palin will be the next, and first woman, President.
A dumbass? Hmmm, Senator Obama is highly educated. Dumbass would entail that he isnt. Now, if you dont like policy, thats one thing. But to call out his intellect because of a choice you dont like is childish.
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A dumbass? Hmmm, Senator Obama is highly educated. Dumbass would entail that he isnt. Now, if you dont like policy, thats one thing. But to call out his intellect because of a choice you dont like is childish.
George W. Bush has an MBA from Harvard.
I bet you think he's a dummy, don't you?
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Old 10-01-2008, 22:28   #23
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George W. Bush has an MBA from Harvard.
I bet you think he's a dummy, don't you?
No I dont think President Bush is ignorant. Anyone who has a degree from Harvard is an intellectual. I respect him and his education. However, I dont think he has made good decisions as President. This is not in any way a strike at his intelligence.
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meshmdz, it sounds like a one-issue thing, but here's another side to it: How an official feels about 'letting' American citizens own guns is a pretty good litmus test for how that person feels about the people of the Nation.

Does he trust them to make the right decisions overall, and want them to be responsible for themselves and their families' safety?

Or does he think he can save the 'common folk' from their own ignorance and hatred, and be their almighty protector? Does he feel they're just too stupid and irresponsible to own guns?

Or, does he fear what all these bitter people, clinging to guns and religion, would do if they didn't like his 'changes', and actually decided to do something about it?


As to the OP's question:

I'll probably vote third party, out of principle.
I might vote McCain if I see more substantial evidence that his views on things agree with mine.
I'll be damned twice before I vote for Obama.
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Old 10-02-2008, 18:25   #25
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I've been reading all the posts around the Obama and McCain and began to wonder...

Is there anyone in this forum that is still undecided?
I think it's pretty much decided. Americans will vote for McCain. Socialists and traitors will vote for Obama.
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