Can we create a stick on good vs bad brass to reload? - Page 8

**billy396** · 04-16-2009, 14:23

I agree that there's nothing wrong with PMC. I love Starline - my favorite. I certainly agree that AMERC is junk and I won't even try loading it. I've had very mixed results with S&B. R-P (Remington) is definitely soft, but it will load.

VN350X10 · 04-16-2009, 15:57

billy396,

Remington handgun brass seems to be better for strength than their rifle brass. I can load R-P .45 ACP until I lose it, but I only get about 10-12 loadings from their .220 Swift brass. I don't push the Swift to the limit, but they are loaded to (ave over chrono)) 3875 with a 55 gr sp. for prarie dogs. A sod poodle doesn't know the difference between 3800 and 4100 fps. They still go SPLAT !

UNCLE ALBERT

88_gurgel · 05-03-2009, 21:19

I got some .40 brass marked AG

What is that?

daurizio · 05-29-2009, 10:41

i have been using fc for a long time without any problems... i think the key to being safe is not to use any brass more than three times.i know amerc brass is considered junk i have used them many times. after three reloads i dump them

gary newport · 05-29-2009, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by daurizio

i have been using fc for a long time without any problems... i think the key to being safe is not to use any brass more than three times.i know amerc brass is considered junk i have used them many times. after three reloads i dump them

Welcome to GT!

(I reload .45 GAP/ACP cases many more than three times. I have yet to have a safety issue because of that.)

Beware Owner · 05-29-2009, 12:56

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Originally Posted by 88_gurgel

I got some .40 brass marked AG

What is that?

Another Gimmick.

ncfyrfyter · 08-05-2009, 13:45

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Originally Posted by fourrobert13

All of the NT stuff I came accross was 45 acp. It used small pistol primers instead of large. I didn't understand why, and I never attempted to load any of it.

The NT is the WinClean ammunition manufactured by Winchester. The box states that the brass is non-reloadable.

robert91922 · 08-06-2009, 02:07

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Originally Posted by freakshow10mm

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Fiochi brass is stamped Fiochi
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I have about 7 different types of Fiocchi 9mm rounds in my personal stock, but cases are all stamped GFL. Please check again.

380Seecamp · 08-06-2009, 04:31

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Originally Posted by robert91922

I have about 7 different types of Fiocchi 9mm rounds in my personal stock, but cases are all stamped GFL. Please check again.

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

This web site (above) lists F, LE, GFL, PS, and FIOCCHI headstamps for Fiocci. I've never seen the "FIOCCHI" headstamp myself. Got lots of "GFL" in my collection.

PAGlock · 09-27-2009, 13:18

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Originally Posted by JMS

Ran across some more headstamps, good or bad?? Company?? Feel free to add to list.

C()J
L()Y
One looks like a circle with an i through it
Para at top, triangle shape at bottom
AP
GFL
LB-NTF
DNL
GECO
IMI
WRA
CCI N/R
CCI
LC
PMP
MM
S043
MFS

()=primer pocket

I just tried reloading 9mm with "*Geco*" headstamp. It is just as bad as Amerc. I used Lee sizer dies to resize brass fired from Glocks. Most other brass will resize just fine...these two suck! Just throw them away!

VN350X10 · 09-27-2009, 13:26

PAGlock,

Geco is usually very good brass.
In it's factory form, it IS loaded a bit hotter than U.S. standards, but is within NATO spec.
You may have encountered some with a bit harder than normal brass, sort them & try to run them by themselves.
I've loaded several thousand of them & they are prefered (by me) for hi-intensity loadings. I load all of my 9mm on a Lee 1000 press with an undersize sizing die (-.001), which is avaliable from Lee & don't have any problems with them other than an occasional tight primer pocket.
Use nickle plated primers, like CCI & they go easier.

A-Merc on the other hand, DO suck !!

uncle albert

G10mm · 09-27-2009, 15:46

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Originally Posted by 380Seecamp

PPU
Prvi Partizan, 31000 Titovo, Uzice, Yugoslavia

According to:

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

Don't think I've ever tried this brass.

Thats a good sight to have

DEJ/FL · 11-15-2009, 16:45

A word of advice, S&B (Seller & Belloit) 9MM cases have a brass appearance but you may want to use a magnet to just make sure. We sorted a bunch of brass and was supprised to find when we used a magnet to remove the other steel cases that the S&B 9MM brass was also being attracked.

Dan

jaybirdjtt · 12-31-2009, 09:15

Just ran a powerful magnet over 1000+ 9mm cases recently deprimed. Some were S&B and none reacted to the magnet. Doesn't hurt to check.

mteagle1 · 12-31-2009, 14:27

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Originally Posted by 380Seecamp

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

This web site (above) lists F, LE, GFL, PS, and FIOCCHI headstamps for Fiocci. I've never seen the "FIOCCHI" headstamp myself. Got lots of "GFL" in my collection.

The Fiocchi 40 S&W frangible are marked FIOCCHI.

RHVEtte · 01-24-2010, 01:41

Don't know if they were already mentioned, but Wolf Gold apparently uses the same brass as Prvi (PPU in cyrillic, looks like nny headstamp), so it should be good stuff.

dougja · 01-30-2010, 08:54

I just sorted through 12,000 9mm cases seperated in the following groups:
WIN
FC
RP
BLAZER
PMC

I came across quite a few "RG 08" cases that prompted my sorting adventure. They appear to be British, crimped. Does anyone know if the RG is good brass or bad brass?

Can someone help me with values per thousand of each.... I want to "un-load" them rather than reload them.

Thanks

SS1 · 01-30-2010, 11:51

Any one know anything about this head stamp? L C O A
It is on a federal 5.56
Reading as much info as I can on reloads and Love this thread,
Thank's to all.

mrwilson · 01-30-2010, 14:47

RG would be Radway Green. British military. Never shot their 9mm but the 5.56 is good.

dougja · 01-30-2010, 15:30

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Originally Posted by mrwilson

RG would be Radway Green. British military. Never shot their 9mm but the 5.56 is good.

Thank you Sir Wilson! The RG gave me a reason to buy a Dillon Swage 600. I can't bring myself to recycle the brass, spend $100 to save $20

skf · 02-02-2010, 09:16

Cabela's has offered to fill my backorder with Winchester .45acp that is not US made. I ordered the Winchester months ago because I wanted good cases to start reloading.

Does anybody know who the maker of this stuff is and what their brass is like? I don't remember for sure but I think they told me it was from Czech.

Thanks!

HOUNDAWG · 02-21-2010, 13:38

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Originally Posted by 380Seecamp

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

This web site (above) lists F, LE, GFL, PS, and FIOCCHI headstamps for Fiocci. I've never seen the "FIOCCHI" headstamp myself. Got lots of "GFL" in my collection.

I have some Fiocchi .40 S&W 170-grain FMJ. The headstamp is FIOCCHI USA but the box says Made in Hungary! I haven't reloaded any of these cases so I can't comment on their quality for reloading.

The only other Fiocchi ammo I have is .357 Mag with the GFL headstamp (made in Italy). I've had good results reloading these cases.

njl · 02-27-2010, 07:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by 380Seecamp

http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

This web site (above) lists F, LE, GFL, PS, and FIOCCHI headstamps for Fiocci. I've never seen the "FIOCCHI" headstamp myself. Got lots of "GFL" in my collection.

I've got some of each (Fiocchi, GFL) in 9mm. The Fiocchi headstamped brass is from some 147gr FMJ I bought just over 4 years ago from Sportsmans Guide. The GFL has been range pickup brass.

njl · 02-27-2010, 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEJ/FL

A word of advice, S&B (Seller & Belloit) 9MM cases have a brass appearance but you may want to use a magnet to just make sure. We sorted a bunch of brass and was supprised to find when we used a magnet to remove the other steel cases that the S&B 9MM brass was also being attracked.

Dan

All the steel cases I've seen have been berdan primed. Are there boxer primed steel?

njl · 02-27-2010, 23:05

Hmm...I think S&B just made my pitch list. I've been using it for "lost brass" matches and have actually been able to recover most of it recently.

I was just loading some that was a mix of first reload brass and brass I'd already loaded and shot at least once. It was giving me a real hard time on the bell/powder drop station, not wanting to bell, and then not wanting to let go of the powder funnel. When I randomly gaged a few, a lot of them would fall into the gage, but needed to be pushed out. A few wouldn't fall all the way in. It seemed as though the brass was bulging around where the base of the seated bullet was. The Win and FC brass I loaded tonight all dropped in and out of the gage. I ended up gaging all the S&B and most of the Win and FC...and then tried dropping the questionable ones into my dirty G17 barrel. I ended up pulling 6 bullets and tossing 6 primed cases. I think I'll shoot up the S&B I've loaded and not try to recover it.

Tonight was the fist time I've loaded FC brass. It was amazingly easy compared to the S&B. It resized like it wasn't there, and didn't stick on the powder funnel at all.