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Old 11-16-2009, 09:28   #21
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Drew, as this being the internet, people say all sorts of things. Whether they are correct or not remains to be seen. I just know what the master armorer told me when I was certified. Dry firing should not damage a Glock. That being said, every gun that leaves the factory is now in a different state of repair and maintenance so someone that uses aftermarket parts, does a .25 cent trigger job or whatever might experience damage when dry firing. Doesn't make it dry firing's fault.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:40   #22
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for me, personally, i dont see the need to repeatedly dry-fire a glock...since its the exact same trigger pull ever time....

but now on my Sig 229 when i had it, i dry fired the heck out of it with a snap cap to smooth out the trigger and get accustomed to the double action pull....

again, nothing wrong with dry firing a glock, just dont see the need for it
If you dry fire for "just the trigger pull", you are not properly dry firing. Dry firing is the very best way to improve your accuracy and proficiency with a weapon. The benefits exceed live fire by a long shot.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:43   #23
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Even my wife is sitting here giggling after I read your post to her. LOL
No offence but that is funny.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:54   #24
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Using snap caps is beneficial in areas other than resetting the trigger. They are useful when doing drills on malfunctions. As one member mentioned "muscle memory". When you have a FTF you slap the magazine and rack the slide. This way you will most likely slap and rack rather than just reset the trigger. What you do during drills you will most likely do doing a real life situation.
Exactly when you are dry firing, use that time also for properly manipulating the slide. You want it to become second nature. If you are going to do it, do it right.

Also practice reloading and getting the pistol ready from different conditions.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:19   #25
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Drew, as this being the internet, people say all sorts of things. Whether they are correct or not remains to be seen. I just know what the master armorer told me when I was certified. Dry firing should not damage a Glock. That being said, every gun that leaves the factory is now in a different state of repair and maintenance so someone that uses aftermarket parts, does a .25 cent trigger job or whatever might experience damage when dry firing. Doesn't make it dry firing's fault.

Understood. In this instance, I know of Jamrock, who he is, and what he does. I don't have the search-fu to find his thread.

OK. Maybe I WILL go search for it...
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Old 11-18-2009, 21:40   #26
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Understood. In this instance, I know of Jamrock, who he is, and what he does. I don't have the search-fu to find his thread.

OK. Maybe I WILL go search for it...
Did ya find it?
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:59   #27
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Did ya find it?
Here is where he 1st speaks of it (last year)
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthre...ght=dry+firing


and here is where he created his own thread on his experience.... (this year).


http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthre...ght=dry+firing

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For all those folks who continue to think its impossible to break your gun, I had uploaded a pic some long time ago of my G17C breech face which had suffered catastrophic failure due to (really) excessive dry firing. This happened back in '03.

Here it is again:

Tactics and Training

So last night I was rummaging around in my vault and found this:
Tactics and Training

The story is that I had to Fedex the piece of the slide block to the Glock Dealer in Uruguay (No dealer here on the Rock)...and Fedex wouldn't take the whole slide - That's a "firearm or part thereof"...so I had to cut it and send it as Scrap Metal. Took me three months for all the Import / Export paper work and ex-transit/in-transit time, but Glock's Customer Service was great. They sent me a completely new slide - with original serial number - at no cost.

But three months without my CCw was not fun. Moral of the story; use snap caps to do dry fire practice.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:26   #28
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(Thanks for all this, Drew. Educational for me.)
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(Thanks for all this, Drew. Educational for me.)
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Remember, I know of Jamrock - we are both from Jamaica, but I am not attesting as fact that his pistol did indeed break from dry-firing. I have only reposted what he did.

I am inclined to believe something happened...if the frigging space shuttle can blow up, any other man made mechanical device can!
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:51   #30
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I recently placed a call to Glock Customer Support to ask a few questions. One of them was about using snap caps for dry firing. The technician said occasional dry firing to take the tension off the firing pin or to perform a field strip is okay, but recommended the use of snap caps if I was going to do dry fire sessions for practice. The other information I obtained, although not related to this thread, was they use Break-Free CLP to clean the entire gun. They use GunScrubber for tougher jobs but avoid using ANY ammonia-based cleaners.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:55   #31
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It must be lunch time.

I just read the title as "What everyone should know about deep frying their pistol"...
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Old 12-07-2009, 19:57   #32
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It must be lunch time.

I just read the title as "What everyone should know about deep frying their pistol"...
so did ya get something to eat? preferably 'deep fried'....
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... They sent me a completely new slide - with original serial number - at no cost. ...
I am not doubting most of his story, but I do not believe this part at all.

I have never known Glock to replace a slide, frame or barrel with an original SN.

Given the number of spare parts they have, why would they make a brand new part just to stamp an original SN? Just to make it sound good on an Internet forum?

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I am not doubting most of his story, but I do not believe this part at all.

I have never known Glock to replace a slide, frame or barrel with an original SN.

Given the number of spare parts they have, why would they make a brand new part just to stamp an original SN? Just to make it sound good on an Internet forum?

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Could be because he was required to cut the original in half in order to ship the broken part to GLOCK?
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