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Old 12-04-2009, 06:49   #21
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I handled and shot the smae Fourth Gen pistol that eringobragh did

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Thank you very much for this informative post. I appreciate it.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:35   #22
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Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts

Did the grip angle change much?

What were the backstraps made out of? Rubber?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:11   #23
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Anyone know if 9mm's will have the dual recoil spring or just the 40's ?
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Old 12-04-2009, 17:19   #24
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John Hollister,

Would you say the texture on the NEW 4th Gens is close to the RTF 3 ?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w.../glock-rtf.jpg
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Old 12-04-2009, 21:05   #25
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Would you say the texture on the NEW 4th Gens is close to the RTF 3 ?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w.../glock-rtf.jpg
I thought it was somewhat close. The spikes are more spread apart and not as sharp as the standard RTF.
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Old 12-04-2009, 21:58   #26
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the 4th Generation, I was told, is an OPTION. They will continue to offer the 3rd Gen pistols and you can have the 4th Gen if you like. Probably the best feature so far
I think Glock was really smart doing this. Not everyone likes new designs, and will at least keep both parties happy.
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Old 12-04-2009, 23:32   #27
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Maybe it was mentioned in this thread, and I missed it, but will the older slides work on the new frame? Thats a big one I think.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:58   #28
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Hey John,

What ammo did you shoot through the Gen 4 gun?

Did it have a light attached? If so, which make/model?

Did any issues crop up reliability wise?

Thanks in advance,

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Ammo was Glock provided Blaser

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Old 12-05-2009, 06:59   #29
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Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts

Did the grip angle change much?

What were the backstraps made out of? Rubber?
No change to grip angle at all. All Glock

"Polymer", same as the frame
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:59   #30
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Anyone know if 9mm's will have the dual recoil spring or just the 40's ?
I thought I overheard that the dual recoil assembly was for the G22 which was having issues when a weapon mounted light was present.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:59   #31
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Anyone know if 9mm's will have the dual recoil spring or just the 40's ?
Yes. All 4th Gen will have the new Spring System
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:00   #32
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John Hollister,

Would you say the texture on the NEW 4th Gens is close to the RTF 3 ?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/w.../glock-rtf.jpg
I'd say it's about half the texture of the RTF. As Tom said, it's got the nubs, but fewer of them
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:01   #33
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Maybe it was mentioned in this thread, and I missed it, but will the older slides work on the new frame? Thats a big one I think.
There was no mention that they would not, but that's obviously not something that comes up in random conversation. Wouldn't see why it wouldn't
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:51   #34
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Yes. All 4th Gen will have the new Spring System
Is it like the mini Glock recoil assembly's? If so the muzzle's must have had the recoil rod holes enlarged also or can you use the new recoil assembly's in the older generation Glocks?

One more question: Did the 4th gen 22 have the half moon cut in the front of the grip or is it gone like on the FS RTF's? Thanks for all the info.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:55   #35
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Exactly. One reason I bought a Glock is that everything is simple and most parts interchangeable. I'm a lefty and have trained to use a right-handed gun, so a ambidextrous mag release doesn't interest me, especially if I can't use certain magazines!
I think the reversible mag catch is a better idea than the ambi. If nothing else, (as explained here) you can use the older mags as long as you don't reverse the catch.
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Old 12-06-2009, 20:40   #36
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Is it like the mini Glock recoil assembly's? If so the muzzle's must have had the recoil rod holes enlarged also or can you use the new recoil assembly's in the older generation Glocks?
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2) The 4th generation pistols will have a double spring recoil assembly, as described by eringobragh, it is a longer version of the G26/G27 spring.

It will not be designed to retrofit the older generations of pistols. The ring in the front of the slide is a larger diameter to accommodate the new assembly.

I've actually been asking for this for years. The double spring system works amazingly well and in actually shooting the 4th Gen G22 they had on hand, I can tell you that is sucks up a lot of the "bite" of the .40S&W transferred to the shooter via the grip. It felt kinda like shooting "+P" in a G17, maybe a little snapper, but not much.
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One more question: Did the 4th gen 22 have the half moon cut in the front of the grip or is it gone like on the FS RTF's? Thanks for all the info.
No. The pad is flat and slightly wider/longer.
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Old 12-07-2009, 21:38   #37
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The only complaint I ever had about the glock's design was the serrations on the slide because my hands have slipped when handling the slide before, so I'm glad that they changed that up for the 4th generation models. I would actually have to hold one before I can say anything about the new grip, but I am pretty much fine with how they are now.
Check that jhmayhem. The gen 4 looks to be going back to the straight serrations, so says all that have handled the gen 4. Only the gen 3 RTF2 "option" looks like it will have the fish scale looking serrations.

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Old 12-08-2009, 14:55   #38
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If the slides are interchangeable I would buy a bunch of new slides for my old guns.


What am I saying???

I'll just buy a bunch more new Glocks!!!
The reason I asked isnt for the new slides to old frames, the other way around. If the new grip is better than the old one, some people may want to change frames. What I wonder though, is if the grip and internal parts wont interchange, the is a good chance the slide wouldnt either. Maybe it will fit the rails, but it would be an easy possibility that the parts interacting with the frame mounted internals wouldnt work together.
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Glock Gen 4 pricing.

Glock Generation 4 pricing will be the same as older models. The G22's and G17's are the first to be produced,available in January. There will be no olive drabs available.
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Old 12-09-2009, 22:32   #40
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The information for the pricing on the guns is on the new price listing available through GSSF or Amorer program. The prices are listed,There was no change for either gun,you can still order the Gen 3 models. It list on the price sheet that there is not availability on the olive drab at this time. I do have a price sheet in hand.
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