GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-12-2010, 16:13   #1
kimberguy2004
Senior Member
 
kimberguy2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 1,616
Colt AR 22lr

Does anyone have experience with these? I can't find any reviews that don't come across like a paid advertisement. Just wondering if they were reliable or is Colt still the worlds largest manufacturer of unfinished firearms..
__________________
Socialism is a great idea until the achievers run out of money.

Bitter Gun Owner
Bitter Clinger
Armed Infidel
kimberguy2004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2010, 16:32   #2
faawrenchbndr
CLM Number 281
NRA Life Member
 
faawrenchbndr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: US
Posts: 31,985
Take a look in the "rimfire" page,......there is a bit of info there.
Would love to have one!
faawrenchbndr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 14:54   #3
MrMurphy
Head Sheepdog
 
MrMurphy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Buried in the X-files
Posts: 31,643
Having handled both the Colt and the S&W.....

I'm buying the S&W eventually.
__________________
"And Shepherds we shall be. For thee, my Lord for thee. Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et fili, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen."
MrMurphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 21:06   #4
Apocalypse_Now
Molon Labe
 
Apocalypse_Now's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Outer Limits
Posts: 2,772
Why not just buy the $190.00 .22lr conversion kit for your 5.56 AR15 from CDNN?

You DO have a 5.56 carbine, right? If not, priorities are skewed..
__________________
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves. ... Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible instrument of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American" Tench Coxe 1788.
Apocalypse_Now is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 22:29   #5
Glocks&Ducs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 11,815


From just about all non-paid accounts, the Colt in 22LR is a solid piece of junk. Many people wonder why Colt allowed their name to placed on that rifle. It isn't made by Colt, and it isn't performing very well. I think most people are gravitating towards the S&W M&P 15-22, although some of them did have ejector problems at first. I haven't heard of many complaints about them lately, and mine has worked perfectly so far.
Glocks&Ducs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 08:56   #6
deMontacute
NRA Member
 
deMontacute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 2,162
Send a message via Yahoo to deMontacute
It is garbage. To begin with, it is not made by Colt, it is made by the Airsoft company Umarex. Colt just stamps their name on the side.

Seriously, the thing is about the quality you would expect from an airsoft company... In other words Crap! I don't know why Colt wanted to put their name on such a piece of junk.

ETA: LOL, I just read the response above me. Guess I'm one of those "Many people"...
__________________
"...but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." C. S. Lewis
"Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits
Kalashnikov Klub #723 Black Rifle Club #723

Last edited by deMontacute; 01-14-2010 at 09:00..
deMontacute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 09:41   #7
kimberguy2004
Senior Member
 
kimberguy2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 1,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypse_Now View Post
Why not just buy the $190.00 .22lr conversion kit for your 5.56 AR15 from CDNN?

You DO have a 5.56 carbine, right? If not, priorities are skewed..
Because the .223 barrel is .224", .003" bigger than the standard 22lr barrel and accuracy is guarranteed to suck right out of the box..
__________________
Socialism is a great idea until the achievers run out of money.

Bitter Gun Owner
Bitter Clinger
Armed Infidel
kimberguy2004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 13:46   #8
Kentak
Senior Member
 
Kentak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 4,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimberguy2004 View Post
Because the .223 barrel is .224", .003" bigger than the standard 22lr barrel and accuracy is guarranteed to suck right out of the box..
And, I think you can get lead shavings in your gas hole.

I *know* that's something I don't want.
__________________
Join and support the NRA
Kentak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 13:49   #9
faawrenchbndr
CLM Number 281
NRA Life Member
 
faawrenchbndr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: US
Posts: 31,985
My plan is to eventually build a dedicated 22lr upper.
faawrenchbndr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 15:06   #10
deMontacute
NRA Member
 
deMontacute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 2,162
Send a message via Yahoo to deMontacute
Quote:
Originally Posted by faawrenchbndr View Post
My plan is to eventually build a dedicated 22lr upper.
This is the right answer if a quality practice setup is what you are looking for...
__________________
"...but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." C. S. Lewis
"Don't you know there ain't no devil, there's just God when he's drunk." - Tom Waits
Kalashnikov Klub #723 Black Rifle Club #723
deMontacute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 15:17   #11
faawrenchbndr
CLM Number 281
NRA Life Member
 
faawrenchbndr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: US
Posts: 31,985
Quote:
Originally Posted by deMontacute View Post
This is the right answer if a quality practice setup is what you are looking for...
Yes,....but cost of a dedicated upper is $500+
A conversion kit is $200,......but accuracy suffers greatly.
faawrenchbndr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2010, 19:27   #12
hdbob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 159
heard alot of bad about the colt, the Smith is the way to go
hdbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2010, 06:05   #13
wellcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: pa
Posts: 837
i think the majority of people that have had problems with the colt m4 22 rifles have had malfunctions because they didn't read the owners manual prior to firing the gun. there's a spring in the bolt that needs to be adjusted based on what type of ammo you are using. with that said i think the newer batch of SW MP 22's and the sig 522 are better choices over the colt. i have a colt but haven't gotten around to shooting it yet.
wellcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2010, 06:09   #14
chineseboxer
Senior Member
 
chineseboxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 138
I have the Smith....it's great!
chineseboxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 18:10   #15
MCKNBRD
Senior Member
 
MCKNBRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Thomasville, NC
Posts: 1,535
Send a message via AIM to MCKNBRD
The 'Colt' is a glorified airsoft gun, as stated above. Already having warranty issues with them, as Umarex is a bit overwhelmed and Colt is not standing by the product that bears their name.

The M&P is light years better, but, as mentioned above, its getting a reputation for puking extractors. If you pick one up, might as well have a spring, plunger, and extractor in your 'Oh, Shyt' kit. Keep the extractor clean and well lubed, as most of the ones I've seen come back are dry and dirty; extractors tend to walk on most autoloading .22LRs if they're dry. M&P advantages? Any AR trigger will drop in, and sights, lights, and any other tacticool stuff you can hang on your AR will hang on it.

Personally, I think a gussied-up 10/22 is the way to go, as they're proven, reliable, and have TONS of parts you can use on the one you build. I'm just partial, though.

Byrdman
__________________
Its better to sweat in peace than bleed in war...

Do you shoot or do you talk about shooting?
Take the Appleseed Challenge: http://www.appleseedinfo.org/
MCKNBRD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 20:35   #16
stooxie
NRA Life Member
 
stooxie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,854
I had the Colt in my hands at a store and was totally prepared to buy it as I was looking for a 22LR AR platform.

I couldn't bring myself to do it. What really got me were the fake controls, i.e. mag release, it was so clearly a half hearted attempt. I really wanted to want to buy it (not a typo there) but it just didn't give me a good feeling.

I ended up with a Spike's Tactical upper. Perfect solution, I think. Proper AR lower with dedicated 22LR upper.

-Stooxie
__________________
It's a lot easier for the government to turn honest citizens into criminals than criminals into honest citizens.
stooxie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2010, 14:37   #17
BulgarWheat
Senior Member
 
BulgarWheat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 112
Got the Smith and Wesson and am pretty pleased with it. Only a few things bug me about it,......unless you have a round chambered you can pull the magazine right out, and the magazines are not easy to find. I comes with two, but since when was two ever enough?
BulgarWheat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2010, 20:14   #18
Wyoming
Senior Member
 
Wyoming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southwest Wyoming
Posts: 1,870
Send a message via Yahoo to Wyoming
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocalypse_Now View Post
Why not just buy the $190.00 .22lr conversion kit for your 5.56 AR15 from CDNN?

You DO have a 5.56 carbine, right? If not, priorities are skewed..
The real reason is today AR's have faster rifle twist, 1-9'' or faster. The 22LR is .223'' and will work down the bore of .224''. When the M16 had a 1-12'' I used to get reasonable accuracy with a conversion unit on a full auto. A quick 10 round burst would put them in a 2'' cluster at 50 yards off hand. We didn't even think to use 22 Conversion units for accuracy but cheap shooting.

The 22 LR uses a 1-16'' rifle twist as standard. A 1-9'' would probably cause poor performance.

Has anyone use a 22 conversion unit on todays faster twist barrel? If so lets hear what happen.

A whole upper with the correct barrel for the 22 LR would be a good way to go for a conversion unit.

BTW, my dealer got two Colts AR 22s and I had a chance to shoot one before buying. One work perfectly and tha other did not. I told him to take the good one and I fixed the other.
Wyoming is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2010, 20:39   #19
thisaway
Moderator
 
thisaway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Soddy Daisy, Tenn.
Posts: 3,315
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyoming View Post
The 22 LR uses a 1-16'' rifle twist as standard. A 1-9'' would probably cause poor performance.
Has anyone use a 22 conversion unit on todays faster twist barrel? If so lets hear what happen.
I have been using a Spike's kit in my "Frankenrifle". It has a 16" 1-9 Bushmaster medium-heavy barrel. With the cheap "bulk box" .22LR, I can get 1.5-2" groups at 25 yards, well suited to plinking or cheap close-range practice. I have not tried it on paper beyond 25 yds, though. YMMV.


P.S. The thing is fun as hell, so I'm getting lots of trigger time!
__________________
Wheelhouse #452, 10 Ring#5744, Mil Surp & MBR# 3006, ad nauseam

"By and large, the most successful riflemen were the over-mountain men of Tennessee." Richard B. LaCrosse, Jr., The Frontier Rifleman

"....the man with the rifle knows." USA AMU
thisaway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 08:29   #20
Wyoming
Senior Member
 
Wyoming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Southwest Wyoming
Posts: 1,870
Send a message via Yahoo to Wyoming
P.S. The thing is fun as hell, so I'm getting lots of trigger time! [/QUOTE]

That is the bottom lime with a conversion units.
Wyoming is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 20:14.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,500
436 Members
1,064 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42