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Old 01-17-2010, 18:02   #21
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Old 01-17-2010, 20:23   #22
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I like Stag products as a general rule for a non custom build as opposed to RRA and Bushmaster.

I have not seen or handled the newest piston Stag but that's the one I would look at since they've been in business for so long and offer a decent warranty.
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Old 01-17-2010, 22:19   #23
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I like Stag products as a general rule for a non custom build as opposed to RRA and Bushmaster.

I have not seen or handled the newest piston Stag but that's the one I would look at since they've been in business for so long and offer a decent warranty.


IMO, reading the tea leaves/etc, there will become ever increasing choices of piston guns to choose from. FWIK, the CMMG and Stag are very similar in design and pricing. The Adams Arms conversion kits and the Sig new piston gun are also quite similar. The Adams Arms is establishing a solid track record with piston shooters. These are all short stroke systems and not a whole lot different in pricings. The Sig is not out yet, but their reputation is usually one of quality. Personally, I would continue doing research on all the brands. Keep the money under your hat/ save until you have the funds to get the piston gun you want. Look for quality and reliability. This way, you only buy once and are satisfied with your purchase.
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Old 01-18-2010, 00:22   #24
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Love my LMT,,better then my LWRC
My LWRC is pretty hard to beat so you must have a nice LMT there.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:46   #25
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My LWRC is pretty hard to beat so you must have a nice LMT there.
Not really, just comparing performance/reliabilty between the two guns.
My LWRC in 6.8 has had issues since new and is back at the factory, the LMT runs flawlessly. going to SHOT tomorrow havin a little chat with em,,,
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:00   #26
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You will have to spend some money to gain life saving quality.

If your lane makes the Mini-14 or Kel-Tec attractive, I'd suggest the Mini, a lot of ammo, some good (OEM) magazines and a training class.
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Old 01-18-2010, 14:47   #27
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Thank you very much for mentioning our product.

We actually have our ATAC MK-1 gas piston upper currently marked at $1175. The OP can purchase a complete lower and still be under his original <$1500 price point.


My personal ATAC MK-1:
Black Rifle Forum

And here is a link with all the information about this piston upper:
Addax ATAC MK1
Do you or anyone else make a 18-18.5 inch piston upper or complete rifle?
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Old 01-18-2010, 15:02   #28
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Do you or anyone else make a 18-18.5 inch piston upper or complete rifle?
I'm sorry but we do not build piston uppers in the 18-18.5" configuration. We do, however, build them in the DI flavor.

Addax 18" SPR Upper
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I bought my piston driven bushmaster lightly used for $1200.
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:07   #30
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+1 For LMT got over 400 rounds on her and she is flawless
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:39   #31
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I'm lookin' at either a Stag or Ruger sr-556. The thing I like about the Ruger is I get 3 magpull mags, to with all my other AR mags, and it's already got all the bells and whistles I'd ever want on an AR. Plus, the rail is pinned in so it won't start loosenin' itself up. Pretty good stuff on there for the price.
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Old 01-21-2010, 14:19   #32
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I'm lookin' at either a Stag or Ruger sr-556. The thing I like about the Ruger is I get 3 magpull mags, to with all my other AR mags, and it's already got all the bells and whistles I'd ever want on an AR. Plus, the rail is pinned in so it won't start loosenin' itself up. Pretty good stuff on there for the price.
The LMT rail is monolithic, aint ever comin off!
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:49   #33
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Just some thoughts about the Ruger.

No one pays anywhere close to the $2G MSRP. I think 1500 is on the high side of a typical street price now, and you should be able to do better.

Consider it comes standard with the excellent Troy BUIS and Troy rail. If those are items you might have paid for to add to another make, that 1500 begins to look darn attractive. The lower has a nice rubberized grip (I forget the maker). The three Pmags thrown in is minor, but it's a nice touch, as is the soft case included.

I'm very impressed with mine and look forward to really putting a lot more rounds downrange when our state operated ranges open in the spring.
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Just some thoughts about the Ruger.

No one pays anywhere close to the $2G MSRP. I think 1500 is on the high side of a typical street price now, and you should be able to do better.

Consider it comes standard with the excellent Troy BUIS and Troy rail. If those are items you might have paid for to add to another make, that 1500 begins to look darn attractive. The lower has a nice rubberized grip (I forget the maker). The three Pmags thrown in is minor, but it's a nice touch, as is the soft case included.

I'm very impressed with mine and look forward to really putting a lot more rounds downrange when our state operated ranges open in the spring.
Like others have said, you don't charge $1500+ and have the barrel come in a 1/9 twist.

That's just a no no.
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Like others have said, you don't charge $1500+ and have the barrel come in a 1/9 twist.

That's just a no no.
This is an honest question, I'm not looking to start any arguments. Can you explain what you mean? I understand the 1/7 has the edge on stabilizing the longer bullets, but what would that have to do with the price of the gun?

I have heard Ruger spokesmen and others who have said they have obtained very good accuracy with heavier bullets. I, myself, haven't shot anything heavier than 70 gr with my guns, mostly due to sticking with cheaper ball ammo. I'll definitely be trying some of the heavier stuff this spring, as my curiosity has been aroused now.

Added later: Anyone?
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Old 01-23-2010, 17:48   #36
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Old 01-24-2010, 17:26   #37
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Do you or anyone else make a 18-18.5 inch piston upper or complete rifle?
POF makes a great 18" piston. I've been shooting an upper for 3 years as my main 3gun match rifle. 1" groups at 100 yards and dead reliable. Here:
http://www.pof-usa.com/main.htm

FYI, I've seen some comments on other forums that their customer service can be hit or miss lately. My experience has been good, though.
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