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01-31-2010, 07:46
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S&W MP15-22 Questions
I already own this gun. I'm begining to teach my 10 year old how to properly handle and respect a gun. I figured a .22LR is a good caliber to learn on (many of us did) and one that just looks cool would be a bonus. Now, we've got the 4 basic rules memorized and respected. We shot open sites at 17 and 25 yards (he did incredible BTW).
Now, I bought a used Bushnell scope and mounted it to teach scoped shooting. It was a used 'Stalker' 3X9 which I can't find much info on, but it works just fine.
Here's the first question (sorry for the lengthy setup), at what range should I be working with him on with this platform? 25yrds? 50yrds? 100 yrds? What's a realistic target training range for this rifle with a 3X9? Not knowing the ballistics characteristics yet (thought I'd ask more knowledgable people here) what's the drop as I move out? I'm generally shooting CCI mini-mags or the WalMart Federal Bulk Packs (super cheap).
The range officer told me at 100 yrds I can expect 8" of drop? Really? And I shouldn't shoot at that range....Hmmm....
Second question, next I'm moving to a red dot to try that out. I don't want to drop major coin on a tactical red dot for this .22. Any recommendations on a decent red dot in the $100-$150 range?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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01-31-2010, 16:41
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Originally Posted by dw_player
Here's the first question (sorry for the lengthy setup), at what range should I be working with him on with this platform? 25yrds? 50yrds? 100 yrds? What's a realistic target training range for this rifle with a 3X9? Not knowing the ballistics characteristics yet (thought I'd ask more knowledgable people here) what's the drop as I move out? I'm generally shooting CCI mini-mags or the WalMart Federal Bulk Packs (super cheap).
The range officer told me at 100 yrds I can expect 8" of drop? Really? And I shouldn't shoot at that range....Hmmm....
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In teaching your 10 year old I would start by sighting in at 25 yards and consider 50 yards long range. Once your son masters the shorter ranges going longer won't be a problem. 100 yards with a .22 can be challenging and frustrating for the young fellow if you start there, even with a scope.
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Second question, next I'm moving to a red dot to try that out. I don't want to drop major coin on a tactical red dot for this .22. Any recommendations on a decent red dot in the $100-$150 range?
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I have a Firefield 5mW green laser on mine that I purchased from Sportsmansguide.com for under $80.00. I think you can see the green dot better than the red in daylight.
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01-31-2010, 18:31
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Originally Posted by Faulkner
In teaching your 10 year old I would start by sighting in at 25 yards and consider 50 yards long range. Once your son masters the shorter ranges going longer won't be a problem. 100 yards with a .22 can be challenging and frustrating for the young fellow if you start there, even with a scope.
I have a Firefield 5mW green laser on mine that I purchased from Sportsmansguide.com for under $80.00. I think you can see the green dot better than the red in daylight.

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IMO, worth exactly what you paid  I'd keep it between 25 and 75 yards. With regular high velocity ammo, you can sight in at 25, be just a tad high at 50 and dead on again at 75.
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02-01-2010, 09:03
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I use a Primary Arms M4 Red Dot on mine. Very affordable, good quality and co-witnesses with the irons.
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02-01-2010, 23:08
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The youngsters shoot my 22 rifles out to about 50 yards using scopes and Red Dot sights.
I have 25-30 Red Dot sights on everything from 22 pistols to 12 ga shotguns.
Most are this cheap BSA sight. I should receive two more tomorrow.
Now I'm not going to say this sight compares in any way to a high dollar Aimpoint. But the targets from the BSA and my Aimpoints are about identical.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...&prodTitle=BSA 30mm Red Dot Sight 5 MOA
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02-03-2010, 08:57
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Red Dot? Primary Arms M3 clone or M4. Low cost, great quality.
Distance for .22? Depends on what you want to shoot. If your plinking with your son, like I do, we zero at 50 yards (he is using the Ruger SR 22 with the red dot, I use a Ruger 10/22 with a simple 4 x 32 fixed).
It's fun to see the cans jump or ballons pop...25-50 yards is good..can always move out further as he (I) progresses.
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02-08-2010, 12:58
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Originally Posted by Cruiser702
I use a Primary Arms M4 Red Dot on mine. Very affordable, good quality and co-witnesses with the irons.

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What did you do to the barrel???
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02-10-2010, 08:39
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What did you do to the barrel???
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Barrel shroud.
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02-10-2010, 19:33
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We sight in at 50 yards with my 11 yr old with the 15-22. I also put a cheaper reflex sight on such as the following.
http://sightmark.com/index.php?main_...&products_id=9
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