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Old 11-01-2010, 13:48   #51
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Again, loading mousefart laods, maybe, anything can be made to go bang. At least put a huge disclaimer after such a statement.
I agree, especially since we weren't talking about WHICH pistol loads we were talking about.

.38 in a revolver? Probably could load some mousefart loads and be "okay".

A high pressure round like .40? In a semi-auto? Maybe get something shootable, *maybe* have an issue.

The fact that you didn't say "This is what I do, but I wouldn't advise it for newbies", but instead jumped on me like I was an idiot when I questioned the practice. Yet I haven't read ONE other person who thinks it's a good idea.

But I am glad to see a bunch of OTHERS chime in and say "Bad idea".

So let me run some numbers:

The number of people who think "mixed powder is okay"
1

The number of people who think "WTF?"
Everybody else

Throw all the sand you want, Okie... but you could make a point without being such a jerk about it.
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Old 11-01-2010, 13:48   #52
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Well Jack, I don't mind some good natured ribbing, been known to engage in some myself from time to time. However, I have always had little use for people who wanted to wallow in their ignorance. Picked that up from mom and dad too. Maybe also because where I grew up that could get you killed.
In any case the OP was referencing pistol ammo and in my post is a clue, for those willing to see it as to how to do it and have no problems. "Because I label it as 'mixed pistol powder" and treat it as a fast powder." Treat it as a fast powder. The actual burning rate will always be the same as or slower than a "fast" (TG,BE,TW,etc.) powder. It is quite simple actually.
I've carefully read every post in this thread. I understand what you are doing and though I don't necessarily agree with it. However, do consider that your method errors to the safe side considering your mixed batch of powder as a "ubber" fast. Though chemically there could still be an issue with mixing the unknowns.
Never the less, it is not a practice that should be condoned by any means. Especially to the new “internet only” reloader. I can guarantee that this thread alone will be passed on by word of mouth and electronic forwarding it will be construed as…. “Hey I read on the internet you can use that powder for machine gun ammo, just fill the case!!!”
I collect unfired cases all the time at matches and the range, probably have a couple dozen right now sitting in my bench drawer ready to pull. I disassemble then for the brass and keep the caliber heads that I’m familiar with for a plinking round later down the line. The powder gets tossed…
How much powder do you actually collect from how many cases that have picked up? To save enough to make loading a batch of 50 rounds of anything with your “WTF” Powder X, is it even worthwhile? Do you consider it to be a 0.5 variance for example as in TG with 9mm or something else? Mixing powders is a documented rule in just about every manual out there. It shouldn’t be done, if I did do it I certainly wouldn’t brag about it and use my age as a excuse for going against the status quote.
I’ll be honest when I read you posts the first opinion that popped up in my head is “WTF?! How a cheap can an old, the old fart get?!”
With my peace said, I’ll echo the words above…. “new reloaders don’t try this at home… not a safe practice alone regardless of the side you error on. Okie, if it’s really that tight we can put a collection together to send a pound of powder for your loss comings in stopping you “WTF” powder practice. Just would not want to hear of you getting hurt.
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“WTF?! How a cheap can an old the old fart get?!”
Hey Boxer... can you translate the above sentence for me ?

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Hey Boxer... can you translate the above sentence for me ?

What can I say?! I was so shocked .... I stuttered!
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Old 11-01-2010, 14:37   #55
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Like mixing bleach and Ammonia for a hi-powered window cleaner. Ahhhhhhh I love the smell of mustard gas in the morning..... But I digress. Maybe if I was scrounging through the rubble of a post nuclear apocalyptic, zombie infested lands, with rabid 200 pound mutant tree squrriels and I needed powder to reload my caliber to fend off the ghouls, and the super nutters. But it would be in a make shift mount with me hiding behind the walls the mythbusters use and pulling a long string attached to the trigger... I may be dumb but i'm not stoopid. But then again since that's not happening and I don't have the room to store homebrew powder. It's going down the Sh***r, or feedin the plants. And i'm off to the store to buy some fresh clean non apocalyptic powder for my reloads. I love creativity but I have limits. As my CO used to say "Govern yourselves accordingly"
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Does it meter well? That's all I want to know.
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Does it meter well? That's all I want to know.
The "Unique" part keeps getting hung up. Or so I've heard....
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You guys are a HOOT! It's like tossing a mouse into a bunch of old women. I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely. I'll leave you alone to get your dresses back in order.
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You guys are a HOOT! It's like tossing a mouse into a bunch of old women. I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely. I'll leave you alone to get your dresses back in order.

WoW i am surprised you still have fingers to type. Or maybe you use that cool straw thing like this guy..Reloading
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Old 11-01-2010, 15:30   #61
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I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely.

Hey Nut.... (Yeah, I know your handle is OkieGunNut, but I'm just gonna run with "nut", that okay with you?). Anyway... Don't "include" yourself in with those guys. THOSE guys used science. Not the old "Hey, hold my beer and watch what **I** can do!!" brand of getting stuff done.


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Quick... say something ELSE !!

[Edit: I just re-read my post... the SCIENCE comparison statement reminds me of the old presidential debate: "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy". I would change that to: "OkieGunNut, you're no 60's rocket scientist!".
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You guys are a HOOT! It's like tossing a mouse into a bunch of old women. I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely. I'll leave you alone to get your dresses back in order.
It's been a slow Monday. Your post added some excitement to GTR. If we haven't scared you off completely, you'll begin to see, that most of us are just here to have a good time and learn. We bust each others balls, but we forget about it the next day.

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You guys are a HOOT! It's like tossing a mouse into a bunch of old women. I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely. I'll leave you alone to get your dresses back in order.
You're gonna get too close to the edge of the Earth an' fall off!
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Hey, guys, how 'bout that new super-dooper Lee FCD... anyone know anything about it? Did a forum search, can't find any reference what-so-ever.


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Jack, I thought by this time you would know!

The first rule of the Lee FCD is............we dont talk about the Lee FCD.
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You have to put it in a blender and "puree" for two minutes.
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You guys are a HOOT! It's like tossing a mouse into a bunch of old women. I guess it is good that you weren't around when we broke the sound barrier or went to the moon or any one of a bunch of other things that everyone "just knew" couldn't possibly be done, much less safely. I'll leave you alone to get your dresses back in order.
I'm still waiting for answers for my legitimate questions? Calibers... presssure range... weight varience min-max... velocities...
I wasn't around the sound barrier and too young when we landed on the moon. I have traveled the speed on sound and beyond on more than one occassion. I have worked on certain segments of the military defence program for aerospace propulsion and flight control design, so if you want to compare resumes... be my guest.
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Jack, I thought by this time you would know!

The first rule of the Lee FCD is............we dont talk about the Lee FCD.
I think good 'ole Jack is trying to step in and slow the "abuse" down we've been heaping on Okie. Jack is good about being a mediator like that. I just couldn't resist a couple more cracks since I was the one Okie started in on.

My bad.

I'm going to try to go to my corner and behave for the rest of the evening. BUT!!! Everytime I look at my signature line for awhile, I will just smile, and smile, and smile.
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I'm still waiting for answers for my legitimate questions? Calibers... presssure range... weight varience min-max... velocities...
I wasn't around the sound barrier and too young when we landed on the moon. I have traveled the speed on sound and beyond on more than one occassion. I have worked on certain segments of the military defence program for aerospace propulsion and flight control design, so if you want to compare resumes... be my guest.
Look at the last sentence of mine on post #61. So basically you're saying pretty much what I said there?
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Look at the last sentence of mine on post #61. So basically you're saying pretty much what I said there?
Pretty much, though I do have a great means of comparision... My ex-wife was a "rocket scientist" mechanical engineering degree at MIT, and one of her first jobs was as a rocket propulsion engineer for Honeywell.
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"If we haven't scared you off completely, you'll begin to see, that most of us are just here to have a good time and learn."

I don't scare easily. Hell, compared to what I put up with five days a week, you all wouldn't even be a good opening act. It is painful to see some wallow in their ignorance; as I mentioned before; but, I'll get over it.
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Pretty much, though I do have a great means of comparision... My ex-wife was a "rocket scientist" mechanical engineering degree at MIT, and one of her first jobs was as a rocket propulsion engineer for Honeywell.

Never marry a highly intelligent woman... you'll get shafted every time.

My problem is it turns out they're all smarter than me.


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My problem is it turns out they're all smarter than me.


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Unfortunately to find a wife of your intelligence level, you'd get arrested for hitting on the girls at Head Start...



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Jack...

Unfortunately to find a wife of your intelligence level, you'd get arrested for hitting on the girls at Head Start...



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THAT'S IT, I AIN'T NEVER POSTIN' HERE AGAIN!!!



(What is this Head Start thing you speak of and where can I find these women?


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