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Old 08-17-2010, 19:41   #41
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My first light practice load.
Stock G-20
165 Rainier plated TC/FP
1.272" COL
R-P nickel brass/CCI 300 primers
5.3 grains Titegroup
1,001 fps.
Two failures to extract-slow slide velocity I'm sure.
Excellent accuracy though, puts my G-21 to shame.
My chrono (Shooting Chrony F-1) seems to read consistently about 50-75 fps fast, for example CCI Blazer 200 clocked 1,050, which is faster than most results I've seen from a stock G-20, other calibers are the same way.
I'll edit this post as I work this load up, but I couldn't find any Titegroup data for the 165's, so I thought I would post.

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Old 08-17-2010, 22:07   #42
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Hodgdon Longshot
DT 200gr WFNGC
Starline Brass
CCI300 Primers
1.255 OAL
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
88* F, Sea Level

8.0gr:
1210
1235
1228
1236
1242
Average: 1230
ES: 32

8.2gr:
1244
1246
1250
1250
1247
Average: 1247
ES: 6

8.4gr:
1217
1243
1254
1246
1262
Average: 1244
ES: 45

I am really happy with the consistency of the 8.2gr load, which is Hodgdon's listed max. I have 2k WLP's on the way, and I may pick up some CCI350's to see if that will help kick up my velocities. With a 1247fps average for a 200gr bullet, there's nothing really to complain about. But as always, I want more...

I am pretty happy that 8.2gr of Longshot load beats DT's factory loaded 200gr WFNGC's out of my gun. Here's what DT's ammo did out of my G20L the same day:

1199, 1220, 1173, 1227, 1216
Average: 1207
ES: 54
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Old 08-19-2010, 21:45   #43
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Nice report. Thank you for the nice information. Longshot has been one of those powders I have never gotten around to. Yet more evidence that I should pick up a can.
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Here's some more Longshot data, this time with Mag Primers.

Hodgdon Longshot
DT 200gr WFNGC
Starline Brass
CCI350 Primers
1.26 OAL
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
85* F, Sea Level

8.0gr Longshot/CCI350:
1247
1238
1245
1239
1230
Ave: 1240
ES: 17

8.2gr Longshot/CCI350
1262
1249
1229
1250
1255
Ave: 1249
ES: 33

8.4gr Longshot/CCI350
1243
1285
1250
1267
1278
Ave: 1264
ES: 42

Primers are starting to look more flat, but I think there's still room to grow. I'm still hoping I can average 1300fps with the 200gr WFNGC's out of my G20L with good precision.
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Old 11-10-2010, 12:00   #45
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180gr XTPs Longshot

brand new to 10mm reloading, just tried out my new LWD G20 longslide with 6" KKM barrel for the first time.

more details:
22# Wolff recoil spring.
virgin starline; 180gr XTP @ 1.260 OAL; CCI 350; Lee FCD 1/2 turn
each powder load trickled/weighed by hand
indoor range, CED M2 chronograph with infrared lights 10ft from muzzle.


LONGSHOT
9.2gr:
1339 1345 1334 1343 1333
(avg 1339fps; ES 12; SD 5; 717 ft-lbs)

9.5gr:
1373 1387 1366 1372 1388 1386 1387 1381 13374
(avg 1379fps; ES 22; SD 8; 761 ft-lbs)

9.7gr:
1398 1397 1416 1401 1398 1392 1404 1383 1408
(avg 1400fps; ES 33; SD 9; 782 ft-lbs)


Im pretty happy with these results. from reading prior posts i wasnt expecting velocities this high. also tested some rounds with blue dot and 800x. im most impressed with 800x
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I didn't have any signs of over pressure up to 9 grain with the 200 gr. XTP. So I don't think there is a problem to go over max listed. However, I don't see any reason to either. The more powder I added the velocity never really went up. This speed of powder with the heavy 200gr. bullets is at it's limit at 1170-1180 fps out of the standard length barrel.

My experience is that I need to go to a slightly slower burning powder to get a little more velocity. Using max loads of LongShot with the 200gr XTP I still had about .090 gap between top of powder and base of bullet which tells me I can and should go with a slower powder (takes up more room). I prefer 98%-100% load density.

My next powder to try for this 200gr XTP bullet is 13-13.5 gr. of AA#9. I hear it meters well and load density should be perfect. CCI Mag primers will be used. Looking for a goal of 1200 fps.

If your happy with 1170 fps from a 200 gr. projectile, I would say LongShot is a great powder. Meters very well, burns clean with mag primers and is the only choice I would use from Hodgdon in the 10mm with heavy bullets. I hear HS7 burns dirty which is not what I want when I'm shooting 300 rounds in one day at the range with tight clearances on a KKM barrel.

Still can't wait to reload using AA#9.
The only powder I use for the G20 with the 200 grain XTP is AA#9 I would start with 12.5 grains. I backed off from 13.0 and 13.5. 12.5 grains seems the best bang for the powder. I did not find much velocity improvement over 12.5 of AA"9 in a Barstow barrel.
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Hodgdon Longshot

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brand new to 10mm reloading, just tried out my new LWD G20 longslide with 6" KKM barrel for the first time.

more details:
22# Wolff recoil spring.
virgin starline; 180gr XTP @ 1.260 OAL; CCI 350; Lee FCD 1/2 turn
each powder load trickled/weighed by hand
indoor range, CED M2 chronograph with infrared lights 10ft from muzzle.


LONGSHOT
9.2gr:
1339 1345 1334 1343 1333
(avg 1339fps; ES 12; SD 5; 717 ft-lbs)

9.5gr:
1373 1387 1366 1372 1388 1386 1387 1381 13374
(avg 1379fps; ES 22; SD 8; 761 ft-lbs)

9.7gr:
1398 1397 1416 1401 1398 1392 1404 1383 1408
(avg 1400fps; ES 33; SD 9; 782 ft-lbs)


Im pretty happy with these results. from reading prior posts i wasnt expecting velocities this high. also tested some rounds with blue dot and 800x. im most impressed with 800x

Merry Christmas! Nice report Wavesport! I've got some 9.6 & 9.8 grains Longshot, loaded in new Starline Brass, 1.258 OAL, CCI 350's and Speer 180 TMJ's to shoot either today or tomorrow. Loaded these on my NEW XL650 Dillon (thanks to my wife!) I'll post data soon.
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:12   #48
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~9.6 Grains Hodgdon Longshot (Dillon XL650 dropped charges - charges plus 0.2 grains in some cases or 9.8 grains)

Speer 180 Grain TMJ
New Starline Brass
CCI350 Primers
1.26 OAL
6" Lone Wolf Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
70F, Sea Level

Total Strings = 3

String 1
1) 1386.0 -8.8
2) 1404.0 9.2
3) 1398.0 3.2
4) 1403.0 8.2
5) 1383.0 -11.8

High: 1404.0
Low: 1383.0
E.S.: 21.0
Ave.: 1394.8
S.D.: 9.7
95%: 13.5

String 2
1) 1408.0 16.6
2) 1406.0 14.6
3) 1392.0 0.6
4) 1381.0 -10.4
5) 1370.0 -21.4

High: 1408.0
Low: 1370.0
E.S.: 38.0
Ave.: 1391.4
S.D.: 16.2
95%: 22.5

String 3
1) 1402.0 -0.4
2) 1391.0 -11.4
3) 1380.0 -22.4
4) 1403.0 0.6
5) 1436.0 33.6

High: 1436.0
Low: 1380.0
E.S.: 56.0
Ave.: 1402.4
S.D.: 21.0
95%: 29.1

(End Of Data)

Seeing significant high pressure signs - smiles, flattened primers and headstamps. Loaded over 100 of these on my Dillon, but after shooting about 20 rounds, I decided brass was looking too stressed. I'm going to back down to 8.0/8.2 grains of Longshot with same bullet, primers, brass OAL etc. next. I'm hoping to achieve ~1250 - 1300fps with a 180 grain TMJ bullet.
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Old 12-29-2010, 14:18   #49
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Hodgdon Longshot
Speer 180 Grain TC FMJ
New Starline Brass
CCI-350 Primers
1.255 OAL
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
60F, Sea Level


String 1 - (9.6 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1403.0 4.4
2) 1392.0 -6.6
3) 1388.0 -10.6
4) 1408.0 9.4
5) 1402.0 3.4

High: 1408.0
Low: 1388.0
E.S.: 20.0
Ave.: 1398.6
S.D.: 8.3
95%: 11.5

String 2 - (8.2 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1198.0 -24.6
2) 1231.0 8.4
3) 1199.0 -23.6
4) 1206.0 -16.6
5) 1279.0 56.4

High: 1279.0
Low: 1198.0
E.S.: 81.0
Ave.: 1222.6
S.D.: 34.2
95%: 47.5

String 3 - (8.2 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1242.0 -15.8
2) 1282.0 24.2
3) 1233.0 -24.8
4) 1274.0 16.2

High: 1282.0
Low: 1233.0
E.S.: 49.0
Ave.: 1257.8
S.D.: 23.9
95%: 43.9

String 4 - (8.2 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1242.0 -2.8
2) 1219.0 -25.8
3) 1235.0 -9.8
4) 1240.0 -4.8
5) 1288.0 43.2

High: 1288.0
Low: 1219.0
E.S.: 69.0
Ave.: 1244.8
S.D.: 25.8
95%: 35.8

String 5 - (8.2 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1269.0 19.7
2) 1213.0 -36.3
3) 1266.0 16.7

High: 1269.0
Low: 1213.0
E.S.: 56.0
Ave.: 1249.3
S.D.: 31.5
95%: 95.8

String 6 - (9.6 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)

1) 1407.0 5.6
2) 1393.0 -8.4
3) 1408.0 6.6
4) 1411.0 9.6
5) 1395.0 -6.4
6) 1399.0 -2.4
7) 1398.0 -3.4
8) 1403.0 1.6
9) 1399.0 -2.4

High: 1411.0
Low: 1393.0
E.S.: 18.0
Ave.: 1401.4
S.D.: 6.2
95%: 5.1


I found 9.6 Grains of Longshot to be pushing what I'm comfortable with loading in my 10mm Glock 20. Smiles with primers and headstamps flattening. Nice velocities for a 180 Grain bullet, but IMHO seems to be at case limits - those cases are no longer in the reloading pile. The 8.2 grains of Longshot seemed to perform about as expected. I'd like to get 1250~1300fps, so an increase to 8.4 grains may be the ticket. Cases looked fine with the 8.2 grains of Longshot and appear to have room to grow.

These loads were done on my Dillon XL-650. Velocities obtained from a CED M2 Chronograph with Infrared Screens.

Hope this data is useful. Have a Happy and Safe New Year!
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Old 04-12-2011, 15:16   #50
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Stock G20 Longshot

Picked up some longshot and would like to do a little reloading while awaiting new barrel, spring, etc.. Out of a stock Glock 20 what would be the starting loads for 155 XTP and 180XTP using longshot. Experienced reloader and will take any and all advise at my own risk. Many thanx
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FPS variance question?

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Here is some info from my work with Longshot. Always start 1.0gr lower and work up in .2gr increments until you see pressure signs. (Waters' method):
Starline Brass, CCI 350 primers, 1.26" OAL. 10 shot avg. G20 85F and 5000ft elevation.

135gr Nosler 13.2gr LS - 1542fps
165 GSHP 10.4gr LS - 1356fps
180 GSHP 9.6gr LS - 1294fps
200 XTP 8.2gr LS - 1172fps

These are loads that I have worked up to and are under 37,500psi when I had them tested. I hope this helps!
-Mike
My data for a 180 grain TMJ is ~100fps more and brass looked stressed:

Hodgdon Longshot
Speer 180 Grain TC FMJ
New Starline Brass
CCI-350 Primers
1.255 OAL
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
60F, Sea Level

String 1 - (9.6 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1403.0 4.4
2) 1392.0 -6.6
3) 1388.0 -10.6
4) 1408.0 9.4
5) 1402.0 3.4

High: 1408.0
Low: 1388.0
E.S.: 20.0
Ave.: 1398.6
S.D.: 8.3
95%: 11.5

Do you think it's the six inch barrel and sea level?

I'm looking to develop a 180 grain CMJ/JHP at ~1300fps. I seem to be getting close to those velocities with 8.4 grains of Longshot (.1 grain less than minimum?). Go figure? Just puzzled... any ideas or suggestions?
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Picked up some longshot and would like to do a little reloading while awaiting new barrel, spring, etc.. Out of a stock Glock 20 what would be the starting loads for 155 XTP and 180XTP using longshot. Experienced reloader and will take any and all advise at my own risk. Many thanx
Out of a KKM 4.6 inch barrel with 11.5 gr LS New starline brass CCI 350 1.257 COAL I got 1477ft/sec primers Ok but would drop to 9.3 gr for a stock barrel and work up slowly. Published data from Hogdon shows max load @ 9.3 gr 31500 psi so there is some room to go beyond.
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My data for a 180 grain TMJ is ~100fps more and brass looked stressed:

Hodgdon Longshot
Speer 180 Grain TC FMJ
New Starline Brass
CCI-350 Primers
1.255 OAL
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 22# Spring
60F, Sea Level

String 1 - (9.6 Grains of Hodgdon Longshot)
1) 1403.0 4.4
2) 1392.0 -6.6
3) 1388.0 -10.6
4) 1408.0 9.4
5) 1402.0 3.4

High: 1408.0
Low: 1388.0
E.S.: 20.0
Ave.: 1398.6
S.D.: 8.3
95%: 11.5

Do you think it's the six inch barrel and sea level?

I'm looking to develop a 180 grain CMJ/JHP at ~1300fps. I seem to be getting close to those velocities with 8.4 grains of Longshot (.1 grain less than minimum?). Go figure? Just puzzled... any ideas or suggestions?
Here's Hodgdon Data:

Cartridge: 10mm Auto
180 GR. SIE JHC Hodgdon Longshot: Starting Loads - 8.5 Grains, fps 1221
Maximum Loads - 9.5 Grains, fps 1287
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Out of a KKM 4.6 inch barrel with 11.5 gr LS New starline brass CCI 350 1.257 COAL I got 1477ft/sec primers Ok but would drop to 9.3 gr for a stock barrel and work up slowly. Published data from Hogdon shows max load @ 9.3 gr 31500 psi so there is some room to go beyond.
That's smokin' Tex! And, that's a stout load of Longshot! Did you get 1477fps with a 155 or 180 grain XTP or both?
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That's smokin' Tex! And, that's a stout load of Longshot! Did you get 1477fps with a 155 or 180 grain XTP or both?
It is smoken. That was with the 155gr XTP. I only load lighter bullets because I don't hunt and very hot 180 and 200gr bullets are more for 4 legged threats and the chance of a thru and thru on 2 legged treats is greater. My last post I stated that Hogdon max load for 155Xtp was 9.3 that was for a .40 not 10mm but velocity for ths .40 load was 1283 ft/sec. at 11.5 gr in the 10mm 200 ft/sec is not big stretch. Someone else posted that they used 12.5 gr but From the numbers I got with 11.5 I would not go any higher. That load may be too hot for 2 legged threats with the XTP.11.0gr gave me 1420ft/sec and was more accurate and probably safer. Have not fired in a stock barrel so I can't safely recommend going that high in the stock barrel. Next time out I will see the condition of the brass out of my stock barrels.
I use a 165gr Golden Saber in new Starline nickel plate brass with a 10.0 of power pistol (max published load) CCI350
1.255 -1.258 1396 ft/sec 4.6 inch barrel SD 11.4 for my carry loads.
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Made my first workups with Longshot powder. Stuck with Hodgdon book data. My initial impressions are favorable. While I hand weighed each charge, it is a pwder that meters quite well. I have heard the nickname, "loudshot" in the past, but it did not seem noticeably loud. It was certainly not loud like Blue Dot. It burned relatively clean. Somewhere between 800-X and Accurate 9/7 powders in terms of powder residue and cleanliness.

There is nothing too exciting here, but I thought I would add some data points to the sticky.

Firearm: Gen 3 Glock 20 with 22# Wolff spring and steel non-captured guide rod. Stock barrel.

Temp: 90F

Brass: Starline
Primer: CCI 300
Powder: Hodgdon Longshot
COL: 1.26"
Crimp: .421" as measured at the case mouth
Bullet: Hornady 200 gr XTP
Velocities are averages not corrected to the muzzle

7.0 grains
Vel: 1038
ME: 478

7.3 grains
Vel: 1068
ME: 506

7.6 grains
Vel: 1091
ME: 528

7.8 grains
Vel : 1105
ME: 542

8.0 grains
Vel: 1110
ME: 547

8.2 grains (Hodgdon book max)
Vel: 1146
ME: 583
Note that this load penetrated cleanly through five water-filled milk jugs.

None of the loads exhibited symptoms of excess pressure. Maximum case expansion was gtg. Groups were all respectable.

I have several strings of 180 gr XTPs loaded. I will post the results when available.

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Taterhead, thanks for posting the data...
LongShot, does a good job and is one of the powders to use with the 10mm. I had used almost all of my 1 lb jug of LS for my 9x25Dillon project, but have just a little to test a few loads with.
For me right now, I am trying to use my new 5 lb jug of Blue Dot. It may go pretty fast with a ton of 10mm, 40S&W and 357Sig to load.
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This data is posted in response to whenmonkeysfly's issue with his 9.6gr 180 load. Since I had almost the exact same setup, except standard (CCI#300) instead of mag primers, and my brass did not suffer at all. I measure case head expansion just above the extractor groove on the webbing of the brass. For my new Starline, my average is 0.4220".

4/11/2011, 180gr XTP, 9.7gr Longshot, CCI #300, New Starline brass, 1.255" OAL, 62F, 22lb Wolff spring.

Using the LWD 6" BBL

1407
1400
1394
1404
1387
ft-lbs
Lo 1387 769
HI 1407 791
Avg 1398.4 782
Es 20
Sd 8.02

Notes: Case heads .4226 - .4232". Light to moderate ejector/extractor marks.

Stock G20 barrel, same load, same day/conditions, using the 22lb Wolff spring:

1275
1306
1306
1291
1298
ft-lbs
Lo 1275 650
HI 1306 682
Avg 1295.2 671
Es 31
Sd 12.91

Notes: Case heads .4232 - .4240". Light to moderate ejector/extractor marks.

My objective was to get 1300fps out of the stock G20 barrel without any signs of brass stress, and this load made that criteria easily. It also makes an excellent 1400fps hunting load from the 6" barrel.

I know there are varying opinions on standard vs. magnum primers and when to use each, but comparing my data to whenmonkeysfly's load with a similar set up, main difference is primers, it would appear that .1gr more powder and a standard primer achieved the same result with much less strain on the brass.

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Longshot Data - 10mm 1911 5" Barrel

8.6 Grains Hodgdon Longshot
Montana Gold 155 Grain JHP
Starline Brass
CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers
1.2450 OAL; Taper Crimp .421
5" Match Barrel
99F, (VERY HOT & HUMID) Sea Level

Just wanted to post this data since I do not see a lot of info with the 10mm, Longshot Powder and the 155 Grain Bullet. This load could go hotter or milder, but I wanted a relatively soft shooting, accurate, full-power load with reloadable brass for my Dan Wesson Razorback Limited Edition. (This load seemed to fit the bill.) Power Factor of 193 +/-, so it's in the "majors" easily. You can get similar results from a .40 S&W, but I think you'll beat your gun to death in relatively short order IMHO.


Here's my data:

Total Strings = 3
Feet Per Second

String 1
1) 1245.0 8.6
2) 1233.0 -3.4
3) 1221.0 -15.4
4) 1214.0 -22.4
5) 1210.0 -26.4
6) 1255.0 18.6
7) 1250.0 13.6
8) 1271.0 34.6
9) 1229.0 -7.4

High: 1271.0
Low: 1210.0
E.S.: 61.0
Ave.: 1236.4
S.D.: 20.3
95%: 16.6

String 2
1) 1256.0 5.0
2) 1237.0 -14.0
3) 1264.0 13.0
4) 1271.0 20.0
5) 1249.0 -2.0
6) 1243.0 -8.0
7) 1267.0 16.0
8) 1221.0 -30.0

High: 1271.0
Low: 1221.0
E.S.: 50.0
Ave.: 1251.0
S.D.: 17.0
95%: 15.2

String 3
1) 1249.0 -2.8
2) 1246.0 -5.8
3) 1248.0 -3.8
4) 1260.0 8.2
5) 1227.0 -24.8
6) 1269.0 17.2
7) 1257.0 5.2
8) 1246.0 -5.8
9) 1264.0 12.2

High: 1269.0
Low: 1227.0
E.S.: 42.0
Ave.: 1251.8
S.D.: 12.5
95%: 10.2

(End Of Data)

In the next few days I want to try a 165 grain bullet with the same loading specs. I'll post the results in the coming days.

-WMF (Jay)
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Last edited by whenmonkeysfly; 08-09-2011 at 09:31.. Reason: 8.6 Grains of Longshot Used and added Taper Crimp Data
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Hodgdon Longshot
Montana Gold 155 Grain JHP
Starline Brass
CCI-300 Large Pistol Primers
1.2450 OAL
5" Match Barrel
99F, (VERY HOT & HUMID) Sea Level

Just wanted to post this data since I do not see a lot of info with the 10mm, Longshot Powder and the 155 Grain Bullet. This load could go hotter or milder, but I wanted a relatively soft shooting, accurate, full-power load with reloadable brass for my Dan Wesson Razorback Limited Edition. (This load seemed to fit the bill.) Power Factor of 193 +/-, so it's in the "majors" easily. You can get similar results from a .40 S&W, but I think you'll beat your gun to death in relatively short order IMHO.


Here's my data:

Total Strings = 3
Feet Per Second

String 1
1) 1245.0 8.6
2) 1233.0 -3.4
3) 1221.0 -15.4
4) 1214.0 -22.4
5) 1210.0 -26.4
6) 1255.0 18.6
7) 1250.0 13.6
8) 1271.0 34.6
9) 1229.0 -7.4

High: 1271.0
Low: 1210.0
E.S.: 61.0
Ave.: 1236.4
S.D.: 20.3
95%: 16.6

String 2
1) 1256.0 5.0
2) 1237.0 -14.0
3) 1264.0 13.0
4) 1271.0 20.0
5) 1249.0 -2.0
6) 1243.0 -8.0
7) 1267.0 16.0
8) 1221.0 -30.0

High: 1271.0
Low: 1221.0
E.S.: 50.0
Ave.: 1251.0
S.D.: 17.0
95%: 15.2

String 3
1) 1249.0 -2.8
2) 1246.0 -5.8
3) 1248.0 -3.8
4) 1260.0 8.2
5) 1227.0 -24.8
6) 1269.0 17.2
7) 1257.0 5.2
8) 1246.0 -5.8
9) 1264.0 12.2

High: 1269.0
Low: 1227.0
E.S.: 42.0
Ave.: 1251.8
S.D.: 12.5
95%: 10.2

(End Of Data)

In the next few days I want to try a 165 grain bullet with the same loading specs. I'll post the results in the coming days.

-WMF (Jay)
thanks for the data but did I miss the grains used
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