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Old 05-14-2011, 10:35   #41
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quote: If an intruder is in my house, the first thing he'll see is my light. The next thing he'll see is another "white light." Actually, the inside of my home is dimly lit at night. So, I may not need the light at all. But, I like having it there if needed for any reason.

that sounds fine but what if you are out looking around the house and one of your kids pop up. you might have to point the gun at them to ID them and thats a bad thing. lots of LE train with a flashlight and gun to avoid this problem. a laser is in my opion better for low light Situations like getting out of bed fuzzy headed. Not only will it aid in aiming but when used proper it will not give away you position and hopefully avoid a stray bullet hitting some one that it was not intended for. Crimson trace puts out a FREE cd on lasers. Get one and it might change your mind

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Old 05-14-2011, 10:56   #42
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OK... Got my springs from Glockmeister. I have four G23 mags, so I installed 2 of the new springs, leaving 2 mags with the OEM springs. Went to the range yesterday and tested the OEM vs. the Glockmeister 10-coil power springs. Ammo was WWB FMJ. TLR-1 light.

With the OEM mags, I got about 6 failures to feed per 100 rounds. With the Glockmeister springs... ZERO failures.

As far as the new springs' resistance to loading, I felt they were a little stiffer. But, I use an Uplula mag loader (LOVE IT!). So, it's simply not an issue.

I'm thankful for this forum and the collective intelligence I can access. I had removed my TLR-1 from my G23, as it is one of my HD pistols, and I don't want failures like that. I will test some more, of course. But, I'm very happy to have solved this issue! Thanks GT!!

Glad you got it all figured out.
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:59   #43
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a laser is in my opion better for low light Situations like getting out of bed fuzzy headed. Not only will it aid in aiming but when used proper it will not give away you position and hopefully avoid a stray bullet hitting some one that it was not intended for. Crimson trace puts out a FREE cd on lasers. Get one and it might change your mind
haha.... look at my photo (above) again. Laser, too.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:10   #44
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I have heard of the problems, and am sure they exist, but have been lucky myself. I have a SureFire 200, and the Glock light/laser, and have had zero issues with either on a G-35, G-20, G-29, XD 357, HK P-2000SK (the Glock only fits that IIRC) .

A friends kid got hired by a local LEO and he needed a brush-up to qualify and he had a G 22 with a TLR, and he ran a few hundred WWB and hundreds more of my hand loads with zero issues, that gun was a gen 3. Hope you get it worked out.
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Old 05-14-2011, 15:28   #45
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get rid of the light........ why would you want to hold a light on someone with the gun pionted at them at the same time. we just had a shooting by a police dept here in ft worth where the cop was trying to turn on the light on and shot the person by
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Completely irrelevant to the topic of discussion.

To the people here whose problems have been solved by my suggestion, always glad to help. Just keep an eye on those springs and you should be GTG.

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Old 05-15-2011, 21:42   #46
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get rid of the light........ why would you want to hold a light on someone with the gun pionted at them at the same time. we just had a shooting by a police dept here in ft worth where the cop was trying to turn on the light on and shot the person by
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I wouldn't dismiss a well-proven concept and device on account of one dumb cop!

As racer88 so aptly put it, "If a cop confused the trigger with the light switch... well... does that even need any further commentary?? Seriously. How does one confuse the two? Kinda like confusing the brake and the gas in a car. If you can't figure that out, it's long past time you gave it up."

Attached are two pics of my G21 with weapon lights and lasers...

How in the hell would a trained professional confuse those three activators--laser, light, and trigger?

That's one cop that should be flying a desk, since today's cops are next to impossible to fire! **

There (probably) goes the next Chief of Police...

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Old 05-29-2011, 12:33   #47
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Put another 150 rounds through my G23 with light attached (and new Glockmeister mag springs). Not a single hiccup! Problem solved! Thanks again!
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