GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-10-2011, 19:10   #1
ICARRY2
NRA Life Member
 
ICARRY2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,678
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's Proposed Gun Range Ordinances

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2011...nge-ordinance/

I'm surprised patrons aren't required to be fingerprinted and photographed for each visit and the prints and photo be sent to the Chicago PD everytime along with the make, model, caliber and serial number of each gun.

I wonder if you get to keep your empty brass and take it home?
ICARRY2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 19:15   #2
bob_fuller
Senior Member
 
bob_fuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ankeny, Iowa
Posts: 2,383
I'm so glad I don't live in a hell hole like Chicago...
__________________
Stevens 311, Ithaca 300 12 gauge, ruger 10/22...

A faith that gives nothing, costs nothing, and suffers nothing, is worth nothing. - Martin Luther
bob_fuller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 19:26   #3
Carrys
Inquisitive
 
Carrys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Green Country
Posts: 13,232
I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.
__________________
If Men Won't Even Obey Their Govt.......What Makes Anyone Believe They Will Obey Their God?

Men Seem To Think Their God Is Like Their Govt.......He Is Supposed To Give Them Things, Not Ask Anything Of them.
Carrys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 19:48   #4
Folsom_Prison
Brew Crew
 
Folsom_Prison's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Midwest
Posts: 15,910
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm glad I live in Kansas.
Folsom_Prison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 19:53   #5
RightGlock1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,333
Thank God I live in Texas.......

Rahm is a total TOOL.
RightGlock1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:13   #6
A6Gator
Senior Member
 
A6Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Barack's Plantation
Posts: 3,306
Looks like it's pretty clear Dead Fish doesn't want gun ranges in Chicago...people get the government they deserve.
__________________
-The only easy day was yesterday
-If you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just say this to yourself... “Baa.”
A6Gator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:14   #7
m2hmghb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Livin in the country of NJ
Posts: 12,217


He's trying to do an end around. The SAF and NRA have filed suits that the chicago rules are a ban on weapons since they require proficiency but there is no range to use.
__________________
Here's a toast to our wives and to the women we loved. <pause> May they never meet.

The M1 Garand rifle is the best battle implement ever devised by man.
m2hmghb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:19   #8
Fox
Varmit Control
 
Fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 8,168
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrys View Post
I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?
Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.

Last edited by Fox; 07-10-2011 at 20:21..
Fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:26   #9
redbaron007
Lifetime Membership
A Nice Prick
 
redbaron007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Southwest Missouri
Posts: 6,281
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrys View Post
I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox View Post
Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.
^^
Agree +1000


You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water!




red
__________________
TopGun *357sig* Club - #2632


R.I.P. Cajunator® ~ R.I.P. Mullah (aka El Ron)
R.I.P. GioaJack ~ R.I.P. Okie
redbaron007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:27   #10
Conan1
Senior Member
 
Conan1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: In a bunker somewhere in KY
Posts: 343
I love Kentucky!!!
__________________
Here, Drink this, but don't spill it. It'll kill the grass!
Conan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:33   #11
rdbjr57
Senior Member
 
rdbjr57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Western Kentucky
Posts: 475
Quote:
Originally Posted by conan1 View Post
i love kentucky!!!
this!!!!! ^^^^
__________________
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
rdbjr57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:35   #12
ScarFace88
WINNING
 
ScarFace88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Living Charlie Sheen's Dream
Posts: 6,428
Florida FTW!
__________________
Got my foot pinned to the floor
You can feel the engine roar
I got thunder in my hands
I'm metal thrashing mad.
ScarFace88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:35   #13
69stingray
427 ci
 
69stingray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 4,098
went to Chicago once, but it counts as two times.... first and last time.
__________________
"If everything seems under control, you`re just not going fast enough." Mario Andretti
69stingray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:40   #14
frank4570
Feral human
 
frank4570's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Cul Va
Posts: 16,679
Blog Entries: 1
Bribes will take care of most of this. Welcome to America.
__________________
Fear your government.
"Rats aren't creepy, experimenting on them IS." Emilie Autumn.

For too long people have said "screw NY, IL, etc" or "that'll never happen here." Yes, it will eventually. If we dont start standing up together now, it will never stop.-ilgunguygt
frank4570 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:43   #15
GioaJack
Conifer Jack
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Conifer, CO
Posts: 10,025
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by redbaron007 View Post
^^
Agree +1000


You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water!




red

That's no big deal, I can too... if it's cold enough.


Jack
__________________
Life is a little bit tragic but mostly magic... Learn to deal with the tragic and CHERISH THE MAGIC

A PACIFIST is someone who won't raise their hands to defend themselves...
A COWARD is someone who won't raise their hands to defend someone else.
GioaJack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 20:53   #16
Bren
NRA Life Member
 
Bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33,436
The big one is this:
Quote:
Ranges can not operate within 1000 feet of another range, any district zoned for residential use, any school, day-care, park, place of worship, premises licensed for retail sale of liquor, any “children’s activities facility”, library, museum, or hospital.
As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.
__________________
If you are not an NRA member, you are not involved in gun rights, so sit down and shut the +%@# up.

Last edited by Bren; 07-10-2011 at 20:53..
Bren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2011, 23:19   #17
GAFinch
Senior Member
 
GAFinch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,782
Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...
GAFinch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 00:25   #18
N4LP
Senior Member
 
N4LP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,613
Quote:
Originally Posted by GAFinch View Post
Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/file...-ordinance.pdf
N4LP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 05:06   #19
RussP
Moderator
 
RussP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 42,620
Blog Entries: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren View Post
The big one is this:

As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.
Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.
__________________
Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.

"Comment is free, but facts are sacred." C.P. Scott, 1921
RussP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 05:10   #20
Bren
NRA Life Member
 
Bren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 33,436
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP View Post
Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.
The whole thing has been carefully worded to intentionally allow arbitrary denials of permits, while having an argument to raise when it is challenged as unconstitutionally arbitrary. I suspect they used the word "substantial" too many times, and eliminated too much of the city, to withstand a constitutional challenge, but somebody will have to pay to find out. Essentially the whole regulations says that "if you can find any spot in Chicago that would comply with these regs, then we can give you a permit, if we want to.
__________________
If you are not an NRA member, you are not involved in gun rights, so sit down and shut the +%@# up.

Last edited by Bren; 07-11-2011 at 05:11..
Bren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 05:28   #21
gwalchmai
Lucky Member
 
gwalchmai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Outside the perimeter
Posts: 44,155


Ahh, Chicago, no matter which road you leave by, the wind is always in your face.
gwalchmai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 05:41   #22
jhoagland
Lifetime Membership
That's right!
 
jhoagland's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: south carolina
Posts: 10,250
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via AIM to jhoagland Send a message via Yahoo to jhoagland
I understand that.
Chicago sux!
__________________
Ummm...you going to eat that??

Originally Posted by Arquebus12
Moral ambiguity is an asset in a combat situation... makes fragging a viable option.

Hagens believe in kicking a man when he's down.
jhoagland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 06:21   #23
airmotive
Tin Kicker
 
airmotive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Debris Field
Posts: 6,996
Blog Entries: 1
Quit trying to discourage Chicago!!
Every day, more and more businesses and people with decency and common sense make the move from Northern Illinois to Indiana, leaving that **** hole to the turd polishers.
The city is corrupt top-to-bottom, and they got the government they deserve.

Hopefully, the good mayor will remember to raise taxes this year.
__________________
----------------------------------------------------
Combine ignorance, arrogance and low altitude, and the result is guaranteed to be spectacular.
airmotive is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 06:29   #24
HexHead
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,818
Kim Jung Emanuel.
HexHead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 06:30   #25
snwbrdr435
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North Shore, MA
Posts: 221
Thank god i live in ma, wait what.
snwbrdr435 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:50.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 717
200 Members
517 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,244
Nov 11, 2013 at 11:42