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Old 07-10-2011, 19:10   #1
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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel's Proposed Gun Range Ordinances

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2011...nge-ordinance/

I'm surprised patrons aren't required to be fingerprinted and photographed for each visit and the prints and photo be sent to the Chicago PD everytime along with the make, model, caliber and serial number of each gun.

I wonder if you get to keep your empty brass and take it home?
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Old 07-10-2011, 19:15   #2
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I'm so glad I don't live in a hell hole like Chicago...
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Old 07-10-2011, 19:26   #3
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I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.
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Old 07-10-2011, 19:48   #4
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm glad I live in Kansas.
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Old 07-10-2011, 19:53   #5
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Old 07-10-2011, 20:13   #6
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Looks like it's pretty clear Dead Fish doesn't want gun ranges in Chicago...people get the government they deserve.
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Old 07-10-2011, 20:14   #7
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He's trying to do an end around. The SAF and NRA have filed suits that the chicago rules are a ban on weapons since they require proficiency but there is no range to use.
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Old 07-10-2011, 20:19   #8
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I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?
Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.
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Old 07-10-2011, 20:26   #9
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I find this hard to believe.

I thought the left told us every day that the great one and those of his administration were totally "gun friendly"?

"Never let a good crisis go to waste".....and if there isn't one, invent it dude. The not so great one.
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Remember the white house leak that Obama was seeking "steath gun control"

The socialist gang in power are using Saul Alynski's game plan to infiltrate the system to bore from within. They are all about deciet and subversion.
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You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water!




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i love kentucky!!!
this!!!!! ^^^^
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Old 07-10-2011, 20:35   #12
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went to Chicago once, but it counts as two times.... first and last time.
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Bribes will take care of most of this. Welcome to America.
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You know, Jesus probably couldn't build and maintain a shooting range in Chicago; and he could walk on water!




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Old 07-10-2011, 20:53   #16
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The big one is this:
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Ranges can not operate within 1000 feet of another range, any district zoned for residential use, any school, day-care, park, place of worship, premises licensed for retail sale of liquor, any “children’s activities facility”, library, museum, or hospital.
As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.
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Old 07-10-2011, 23:19   #17
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Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...
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Too bad the regulations on that webpage aren't cited...
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/file...-ordinance.pdf
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The big one is this:

As we have discovered with the 1,000 foot limit on sex offenders living near school and daycares, that eliminates virtually all of most cities and Kentucky cities are much less dense than Chicago. Thrown in 1,000 feet from every place that sells liquor, and every park and place zoned for residential use and you have eliminated ALL of Chicago, I'd guess.
Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.
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Here's another one, Bren.

Let's say a license is issued, on Page 5, Paragraph (f) says the commissioner may deny an application for renewal if the license would have a deleterious impact on the health, safety or welfare of the community. It goes on to say a deleterious impact is presumed to exist whenever there have been a substantial number of arrests withing 500 feet of premises within the previous two years. What's "substantial"?

The kicker is the later the new ordinance references and includes the meaning of deleterious impact found in Chapter 4-60, The Deleterious Impact/Public Nuisance Ordinance: “Deleterious impact” means an adverse effect on the value of any property, an increased risk of violations of law, or a risk of a substantial increase in noise, litter, or vehicular congestion.
The whole thing has been carefully worded to intentionally allow arbitrary denials of permits, while having an argument to raise when it is challenged as unconstitutionally arbitrary. I suspect they used the word "substantial" too many times, and eliminated too much of the city, to withstand a constitutional challenge, but somebody will have to pay to find out. Essentially the whole regulations says that "if you can find any spot in Chicago that would comply with these regs, then we can give you a permit, if we want to.
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