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Old 07-25-2011, 09:43   #1
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Misdemeanor Marijuana Possession = No Guns in Ohio

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-...-to-bear-arms/

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Old 07-25-2011, 09:59   #2
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:24   #3
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:43   #4
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Well what do you want- to smoke MJ or be able to own firearms? Life is about choices! If getting stoned is more important to you give up your guns! Just like if drinking is more important to you then you don't drive or you get busted for DUI! It is still illegal in most states! Just cause you make it legal doesn't mean it makse it alright to do! Look at Komifornia - they are now searching for a way to charge drivers for being under the influence of MJ an driving as the stoners are killing a bunch of people now since they like to drive stoned! Also don't forget that little form you sign when buying a gun- Asks are you a habitual user! So if you use MJ regularly then you are a Habitual user!
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:36   #5
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In Louisiana you must swear you don’t do drugs, including weed, to qualify for CCW. If you are convicted of drug possession you lose your CCW. Whether weed should be legalized is open to debate. However if one is convicted of DWI they looses their CCW also so at least the law is consistent. If you are arrested you must surrender your CCW pending the outcome.
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Old 07-25-2011, 17:39   #6
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Old 07-25-2011, 18:08   #7
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In Louisiana you must swear you don’t do drugs, including weed, to qualify for CCW. If you are convicted of drug possession you lose your CCW. Whether weed should be legalized is open to debate. However if one is convicted of DWI they looses their CCW also so at least the law is consistent. If you are arrested you must surrender your CCW pending the outcome.
I think you can have up to 2 DUI's in MO before they take your CCW. Makes no sense.
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No one wants to deal with known armed drunks or dopers........
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Old 07-25-2011, 19:01   #9
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It's a federal law too, arrested for MJ can't buy guns for a year. Or at least not through a FFL.
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I hope that the state says one DUI and lose firearm rights. Otherwise it's stupid.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:46   #12
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To put the entire matter in perspective, up conviction of perjury let politicians be stripped of office and barred from ever again serving in elective office or lobbying, etc. anyone or any company doing business with any level of government. Strip them of their right to vote. Strip them of their right to speak in public on any political, social or legislative issue. If a misdemeanor conviction for marijuana or alcohol is sufficient to strip you of your 2nd Amendment Constitutional rights, then why should anyone's Constitutional rights even those of politicians be considered beyond touch?
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Well what do you want- to smoke MJ or be able to own firearms? Life is about choices! If getting stoned is more important to you give up your guns! Just like if drinking is more important to you then you don't drive or you get busted for DUI! It is still illegal in most states! Just cause you make it legal doesn't mean it makse it alright to do! Look at Komifornia - they are now searching for a way to charge drivers for being under the influence of MJ an driving as the stoners are killing a bunch of people now since they like to drive stoned! Also don't forget that little form you sign when buying a gun- Asks are you a habitual user! So if you use MJ regularly then you are a Habitual user!
Well, the only problem I see with your argument is that a misdemeanor possession charge five years ago is not proof that he currently smokes marijuana. Many folks smoked a little weed in their misspent youth. Doesn't mean they still do.

Your analogy about DUI doesn't really make sense either. Getting a DUI may prevent one from receiving a CCW in some states, but it doesn't make one ineligible to own a gun - that is generally reserved for convicted felons.

And the Form 4473 says nothing about habitual use.

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Old 07-26-2011, 11:36   #14
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It's a federal law too, arrested for MJ can't buy guns for a year. Or at least not through a FFL.
Can you cite the source for this? There is no question that indicates such a restriction on the Form 4473.
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In Louisiana you must swear you don’t do drugs, including weed, to qualify for CCW. If you are convicted of drug possession you lose your CCW. Whether weed should be legalized is open to debate. However if one is convicted of DWI they looses their CCW also so at least the law is consistent. If you are arrested you must surrender your CCW pending the outcome.
There is a rather large difference between being denied a CCW or having a CCW revoked and being charged with felony possession of a gun after having gone through the proper steps to obtain one.
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I hope that the state says one DUI and lose firearm rights. Otherwise it's stupid.


That I cannot agree with. Which other Constitutional right would one loose? Somewhere along the line people and the government lost the reality that the Constitution EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the government from taking people’s unalienable rights. Should people be punished for their transgressions? Yes! But rights of free men should be off-limits.

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There is a rather large difference between being denied a CCW or having a CCW revoked and being charged with felony possession of a gun after having gone through the proper steps to obtain one.
I don’t disagree with that. That’s underhanded and should be criminal. But then we are talking about Ohio.

The point of my original post was that one looses the “privilege” if convicted.

One loses the “privilege” if arrested but regains it if acquitted. I understand the reasoning behind such a law but it FLIES in the FACE of INNOCENT until proven guilty
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:26   #17
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You are wrong sir look at this link to the form you will plainly see Question E. Yes it doesn't say Habitual user - it states USER so that means ANY USE! Answering yes means denial of purchase!

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Old 07-27-2011, 11:16   #19
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You just go with that when your put in prison I'm sure that will work real well for you! I don't think a judge will except that as an excuse for not following a law! Also making a false statement IE check NO on that form could net you a felony charge if you needed to check YES! If you smoke MJ it has to be a yes answer!
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