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01-04-2012, 14:54
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Shooting cast
Just got my new aftermarket bbl was wonder what cast bullets to buy, and if they're different loading from jacketed. Call me an idiot call me a moron but I'm sick of shootin 23.50 worth of hollow points at jugs and paper.
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01-04-2012, 15:11
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Originally Posted by Usmcfox
Just got my new aftermarket bbl was wonder what cast bullets to buy, and if they're different loading from jacketed. Call me an idiot call me a moron but I'm sick of shootin 23.50 worth of hollow points at jugs and paper.
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I can't point to preferred projectiles, but load data will be different. You might post a question or two over on the main reloading page. Fred338 and others are way tuned into shooting lead.
I only load one type of lead in my 10mm. It is a WFNGC hardcast from Double Tap. My next order will be from Beartooth based upon their reputation for quality. This is not an inexpensive bullet, so probably not what you are looking for.
Good luck. I would love to see some loading data when you get things working.
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01-04-2012, 16:49
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Usmcfox, I hear you loud and clear...
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Call me an idiot call me a moron but I'm sick of shootin 23.50 worth of hollow points at jugs and paper.
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I cast my own bullets, so I can't help with who's is best...other than mine.
If you don't try to drive them to mach 2 you should be OK. I try to keep mine under 1200 fps but have gone as high as 1400 fps with some straight wheel weight air cooled sized to 0.401" with Rooster Labs Zambini lube. That is yet another hobby to compliment the shooting habits.
Just understand you will need slightly more flairing to be able to seat you projectile without shaving of bullet materials...seat in a seperate step then crimp in seperate step. The results pay off big time!
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01-04-2012, 17:48
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My seating die is adjusted with no crimp. what are some good jam resistant boolits yeah catching up on the cast lingo, to use so many brands weights etc. I like heavier rounds for target 200gr.
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01-04-2012, 19:12
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You will likely find 175's or 180's more readily. I like the 175's with the Turncated Cone profile are always neat and reliable feeders. If your trying for clean cut holes on paper targets a semi wad cutter profile can help with scoring.
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01-04-2012, 19:33
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I use Missouri bullets in my G32. I like Shadow don't send them out at top speed & clean the barrel regularly. I couldn't afford the jacketed ammo all the time either..
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01-05-2012, 06:53
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Missouri Bullet's 180 gr. TCFP, runs pretty good out of my 10mm, this is a low cost plinker I run at about 1000 fps. No doubt you could drive it faster, I'm happy with that velocity.
For woods protection I use a BearTooth 200 gr. WFNGC at about 1150 fps.
I'm using Accurate Arms # 7 for the 180 and 800-x for the 200.
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01-05-2012, 10:15
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Accurate arms powder is hard to come by in my neck of the woods and I can't see paying so much for shipping shadow think I could commission you for some cast bullets?
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01-05-2012, 19:32
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Usmcfox, I just cast them as I need then size and lube, haven't sold any though.
Who knows one day I may have to sell some or trade them for food in the future if SHTF...
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01-06-2012, 08:20
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I think one or more of our members has used Unique with good success for mild plinkers...
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01-06-2012, 19:14
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Usmcfox, I cast my own too, it's the way to go for cheap shooting. What bullet weights are you looking for? I might be able to help you out. I believe there are some laws about selling bullets without a license, but maybe we can work out a trade. I'll send you a pm.
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01-06-2012, 19:23
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I think one or more of our members has used Unique with good success for mild plinkers...
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Yeah, Unique works great for plinking and mid-level loads.
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01-19-2012, 10:16
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I'm in the same boat as the op, Looking to get some Missouri 200 grain hard cast and currently using Blue dot powder for the xtp's I load. Is it safe to use the blue dot or do I need to use a different powder, also any load data ideas would be appreciated!
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01-19-2012, 14:20
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I use Blue Dot with also most all my cast bullets in 10mm, 40S&W, 357Sig, 9x25Dillon, 38Spl, 357mag, 44Spl/mag, 9mm even 30/30 rifle.
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01-19-2012, 19:41
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Nothing wrong with Blue Dot at all. It's not ideal for plinking loads, just because it's slower burning and less efficient for light loads, and doesn't meter as consistently as some other powders, but it works fine.
Also, just because you're shooting cast, does not mean you have to shoot low powered loads. If you're doing things right, you can generally push a cast bullet faster than an equivalent jacketed bullet. Those cast 200's should do just fine at 1200 fps, if you want.
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01-26-2012, 18:30
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Now that I have a BarSto in my G20 I have no real reason to buy jacketed stuff other than for hunting / hot loads. I get Suters Choice 175gr LSWC for like 8 bucks a hundred locally at Graf's and I just bought a pound of HP38 / W231 and have about 200 rounds loaded at 5.2gr (900 fps or so).
Can't wait to see how my "bunny fart" loads shoot.
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01-26-2012, 19:02
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Shooting cast makes for much cheaper shooting, which serves to build profecincy.
Good luck!
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01-27-2012, 07:53
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Other then being a bit dirty, and something I wouldn't want to shoot indoors my "bunny fart" cast loads have provided me with many thousands of rounds of cheap 10mm shooting, with little wear and tear on me or the gun.
These loads can be finicky, so I've learned (the hard way) not to load large batches until I'm confident with the OAL and charge first.
I had one two hundred batch that was a tad too long and just about every third round or so hung up, I went through them anyways since I needed to practice clearance drills.
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