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Old 02-24-2012, 20:06   #1441
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Same here... I think it's like the 1920's were super heated but the 1930's were well... toast.
The 1920s were like today - financial markets did well but the American worker did not do well. The things that did well were also similar to today - radio - that was the social media of the day.

Most Americans still lived in rural areas - that didn't change until the late '50s or early 60s

Farms were hit hard and were depressed. Manufacturing was in a decline.
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Old 02-24-2012, 20:22   #1442
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Super heated as in successful?

Again, I'm thinking the only thing that is wrong are the numbers are soooo far out of whack. Otherwise everything else is fine in the tangible sense.

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I think it's like the "Great Depression" in that if you have a decent job everything is ok at the moment, but if you don't... you are really screwed.
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Old 02-24-2012, 21:10   #1443
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I think it's like the "Great Depression" in that if you have a decent job everything is ok at the moment, but if you don't... you are really screwed.
If you had a job during the "GD" you did OK because the value of the $ you earned was increasing in value - you could buy more with the $ as time went on. Even then wages were reduced.

There are so many differences between the 20s/30s and now for the working person that the comparisons only have value in specific situations.

One is women in the workforce. In the 20s/30s home keeping was a full time job and one man's salary could support a family. Now it take 2 people working to keep a family's finances above water.

Now, if you have a job you are getting slammed by, wages stagnating while benefit, energy and food costs are going up. So, the value of the $ you are earning is going down. Still better than not having a job.

By my way of thinking between now and 2016 we may hit the bottom. But we will never get back to the economic environment we had previously.
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Old 02-24-2012, 21:15   #1444
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Slight subject change...

Something I'm finding interesting is that my junk e-mail is no longer filled with male enhancements and credit card/loan offers....now it's social security and food stamp offers...

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Old 02-24-2012, 22:14   #1445
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Slight subject change...

Something I'm finding interesting is that my junk e-mail is no longer filled with male enhancements and credit card/loan offers....now it's social security and food stamp offers...

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Odd. I never have received male enhancement emails.

I wonder why?

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Old 02-24-2012, 22:16   #1446
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Odd. I never have received male enhancement emails.

I wonder why?

Oh the places I could go with that!!!...

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Old 02-25-2012, 07:56   #1447
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Nothing to see here. . Move along. .

(today's headlines)
- America's Per Capita Government Debt Worse Than Greece...
- HALF of Americans don't pay income tax despite crippling gov't debt...
- Gas Prices Jump 10 Cents -- in Two Minutes!
...Yet, Crude inventories at highest level since 2001...
- US Debt To GDP Passes 101%

Yet the stock market is up today. . . .
Hello Bill.

If I may suggest: The stock market is priced in dollars, which means that during inflation everything that is priced in dollars is worth more "dollars". The stock market going higher under the conditions you listed makes perfect sense.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:33   #1448
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would be a miracle if U.S. economy survives for 8 more years...... brace for impact......
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:42   #1449
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would be a miracle if U.S. economy survives for 8 more years...... brace for impact......
How do you see it unfolding?
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Old 04-13-2012, 18:04   #1452
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It fits.'08.
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Goes well with the other active thread about entitlement mentality.
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Now I see why you edited.'08.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:53   #1455
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.gov will never admit to the true inflation numbers

Yep…aboslutely hysterically funny if it weren't so tragic…you hear the inflation numbers remain at a low x.xx %, not including volatile food and energy prices


Announcers actually say this with a straight face.

Or they include fixed assets (deflated housing prices) with consumables, mixing apples and oranges and making it look like the overall inflation rate is down. You don't buy a house every week, but you do buy food and fuel every week.
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You don't buy a house every week?
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I've been busy lately...so what's new and unfortunate in regard to the topic at hand this week/month?

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Old 04-15-2012, 09:21   #1458
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Odd. I never have received male enhancement emails.

I wonder why?


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Old 04-15-2012, 12:16   #1459
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I've been busy lately...so what's new and unfortunate in regard to the topic at hand this week/month?

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The other thread is going strong on the entitlement mentality of someone's neighbor in time of crisis.
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Old 04-15-2012, 21:07   #1460
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Well, a few things to consider:

#1 Capitalism will self destruct. There are NO well balanced economic systems. These things emerged/developed. They were not designed/made. The reality of the universe is this. Poverty breeds poverty, and excess breeds excess. The rich WILL continue to accumulate wealth, and more and more will have less and less. Nature of the beast. It's not republican/democrat - it's human, it's greed.

#2 The level of lifestyle that the large middle class in this country enjoys is fundamentally unsustainable. We did that to ourselves. You can see the growth of imaginary economic prosperity throughout the 60's, right through the 70's, up to today. That will collapse and be eaten away. You'll go either up to the rich end, or down to the poor end. How rich are you REALLY? What skill and value do you have REALLY. every person over-estimates themselves to amazing degree's IMO.

#3 EVERY society has eventually came to a point where poor masses have ravaged a rich minority (a couple of exceptions - but very different cultures. And they are on their way there.

I always find it funny though - as a "middle class struggling person" you are probably wealthier than 90% of the worlds population. The poor in this country have no idea how poor they are not.

I think it's sad that we have some of the problems we do. There is no reason that a large number of basic health services aren't provided gratis just for being a tax paying citizen. Incredibly brilliant children who want to do good things for society and mankind can't afford an education, while rich dooshes go to harvard with one intention: Getting richer. And they already grew up with way more than any 10 people could want. I think that it is unbelievably tragic that children go without food and clothes in this country. But they do. There are a lot of ways to solve those issues. And you can do it without becoming a "welfare" state, or encouraging people to do nothing.

But the people that make those decisions are wealthy, and their number one goal is to stay that way, and they are paid to make laws that keep money for even wealthier people. You think a CEO of a mega corporation works any harder than anyone else? Nope. But he's going to make sure he keeps ALL of his money - and get as much of yours as possible.

We made wealth and material things the most important thing on the planet - now sit back and enjoy. we have lost touch with the difference between success and excess - and it's going to bite us.

And I don't know you EMT - but like I said; You are worried about the poor masses coming for you? You need to worry about the wealthy and powerful who exist to make YOU part of the poor masses.
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