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Old 03-10-2012, 05:17   #26
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I had a MkII a while back and sold it when times were tough. I recently picked up a Buckmark and have been very happy with it. I never really got the hang of disassembling that Ruger, the Buckmark is a more straightforward affair.

If you go the Buckmark route, do the "Heggis Flip" mod. It lightened my trigger pull significantly and has been flawless for ~2000 rounds.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:55   #27
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I've had a MKII for 25 years. I would go buy another Ruger but I don't believe I will ever wear this thing out. People will be shooting it for 100 years after I'm gone. I've put I don't even know how many bricks of 22's through it of all varieties over the years. I just love this gun. If anything happened to it I would go out today and buy another Ruger.
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Old 03-10-2012, 16:56   #28
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Nearly imposable.
I have an old 22/45 that has in excess of 30K rounds through it. Still accurate.
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Old 03-10-2012, 20:42   #29
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I was in the same boat. I did a lot of research & it
seemed that the majority of gun forums favored
the ruger. Ruger is a great product. Ask anyone who
owns a ruger firearm. That alone is what sold me.

Now I have never shot a buckmark, but I know its
a good pistol. I just purchased my MarkIII 9 days
ago. I have shot over 600 rounds with no problems.

I have fed it both remington gold bullets & federal bulk.
None of them jammed & all of the shot. I have the target
model 10101 which I bought at Academy. This pistol will
make you look like an expert marksman.

I wanted to purchase the AA conversion kit, so while
I am waiting for that to become available I picked up
this pistol. I have no regrets.
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Old 03-10-2012, 22:09   #30
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Go for the Browning. Better gun without half the owner's manual scrolled all over the gun.
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Old 03-18-2012, 16:46   #31
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They're both fine guns. In the end I bought the Ruger 22/45.
You can't go wrong with either.
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Old 03-18-2012, 16:51   #32
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OP: I like both but ended up w/ a Ruger for my suppressed .22LR pistol.

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Old 03-19-2012, 20:51   #33
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Old 03-19-2012, 21:04   #34
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The only drawback is that the first time disassembling & reassembling a Ruger MK series can be as frustrating as trying to solve a Rubic's cube.
Yes, the first time is tough and confusing (even now) but it gets better each time and after a while makes a lot of sense.
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Old 03-20-2012, 22:54   #35
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I think most of it is a personal preference in the grip and sights.

I have had both and prefer the Browning. I used to say part of the reason was the magazine release, but Ruger fixed that "problem." I greatly prefer the Browning sights, and I like the grip a little better, too.

IMO the Browning is easier to suppress. You can buy a threaded barrel with front sight from Tactical Solutions for the Browning and have it shipped strait to your house. The same thing from Tactical Solutions for a Ruger replaces the whole upper assembly. That is the serial numbered part, so it is just like buying another firearm (ship to FFL, not you).

Even if you don't want to suppress it, the Tactical Solutions barrels shrink the groups by quite a lot. Both these pistols shoot well anyway; however, my groups at 25 yards shrunk in half with the Tactical Solutions barrel shooting cheap Remington 550 round pack bullets.
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Old 03-21-2012, 00:23   #36
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Enjoy shooting my 22/45 but I wouldn't say it has been perfect. The magazines seem to be the problem so I swapped them out after about 5k rounds and it is running really well. I would buy a wheel gun if I had it to do over again as I have had very few problems with them and rim fire ammo.

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Old 03-22-2012, 16:31   #37
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I have a Ruger MKIII for several years. When I first got it , I had to send it back because of a tight chamber. I use it for steel competition & practice. I love it. Many thousands of rounds thru it. Functions flawless with Fed. 550 wally world cheap ammo & many others. I clean every 1000 rounds whether it needs it or not. Lots of drop in parts if you need them. I needed a good trigger, so I dropped in an inexpensive part.
I shoot with many others who shoot the MKIII & have the same experience as me.
Some also use for Bullseye comp., but use better ammo. They find it accurate enough.
I think it's a bargain for a great shooting 22cal.
The BuckMark shooters I shoot with seem to have more problems overall, but not bad either. Most of the other 22's that show up, don't last long. If they continue to shoot with us, they usually buy the MKIII. I don't work for Ruger.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:45   #38
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I only have a Buckmark. I like it. I rented a well used and neglected MKII a few times and didn't care for it. Go figure.

My vote goes for the Buckmark.
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Old 03-29-2012, 18:36   #39
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I've got a Buckmark Target. Accurate, reliable, and shoots well with cheap bulk pack ammo.
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Old 04-06-2012, 21:41   #40
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If you have a non-marking punch, a rubber or plastic hammer, a paper clip and some patience and/or finesse with tools...get the Ruger. Otherwise get the Buck. I've had them both and like the build of the Ruger better just wasn't prepared for it to be so tightly put together. I like it now that I figured it out but I could see where I would have gotten in a lot of trouble without youtube...like it this was the mid nineties without the interwebs. I woulda had to send it back to Ruger to get it back together.

Watch this video and get a non-marking punch. My would not wiggle out. That thing on the back of the grip that goes throught the grip. I ended using a number two pencil and cleaned out the tiny wood shreds. Mine was tight.

I like the gun though.

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Old 04-20-2012, 19:32   #41
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I have both and prefer the Ruger, but it is a close call and depends on the type of usage it will see. The Ruger is extremely durable but rather crude. The first thing you should do with a new Ruger Mklll is get about 1k rounds of bulk cheap ammo and fire them into the dirt as fast as you can, not even worrying about any jams or other problems. Only after this little break in session (and thorough cleaning) should the gun be considered ready to go to the range.

The factory trigger pull is too heavy. This is easily fixed with aftermarket parts, but due to the long linkage there is always a fair amount of jiggle in the trigger mechanism. You can get a pretty nice trigger break, but the sloppiness as you take up the slack is not pleasing. The best way to fix this problem is to get a S&W41.

I shoot the Mklll a lot and so I clean it a lot. To me the take down system of the Ruger is its biggest advantage. Yes you have to pay attention and if you don't do it for 3 months you'll probably forget and need to refresh your memory before proceeding. Mostly you need to understand mechanically why the parts have to go together in a certain way, then it is much easier to get it right. And even then, you will probably need to smash it with a mallet sometimes. But the very fact that you can do that with absolutely no harm to the pistol is itself a testimony to the ruggedness of the Ruger. They are built to last for a few lifetimes (except the plastic grip panels which are quite fragile and should be replaced)

The Buckmark is pretty much the opposite of all these things. It is not crude at all, but neither does it have the ruggedness of the Ruger. The trigger is ok out of the box, certainly better than the Ruger factory, but not better than what you can make the Ruger into and there is no way of improving the Buckmark.

The Buckmark is easier to disassemble, but in fact it is too easy. The gun is held together by screws and lock washers - a terrible way to design a gun. If you need to frequently take it apart for cleaning then these threaded fasteners will invariably begin to lose their grip and you start needing Loctite just to keep the gun together.

The Browning is probably a better choice for someone who is not doing a very high volume of shooting and who has no particular interest in tinkering with the pistol. Shoot a few magazines then brush off the bolt face and run a bore snake down the barrel. The Ruger is more suited to someone who shoots bricks at a time, doesn't mind getting under the hood to fix things up and will regularly run patches of JB paste down the bore with a cleaning rod.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:41   #42
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Interesting post Titurel...made me stop and think a bit...while I disagree with you on a few things...you have completely changed my mind in one aspect...

THE AMOUNT OF SHOOTING TO BE DONE. Tit's you have gotten it right. The Buckmark simply will not withstand the amount of shooting the Ruger will without replacing parts.

Take the Ruger down and you will see it is meant to be...take the Buckmark down and you will see that you could have gotten a Beretta Neos and been just as happy for a few hundred less.

Among the things Tit's discussed I disagree on several...but I kinda see his points but he one thing I will publicly disagree with is the trigger...yah the standark MKIII trigger might not be as good as the Buck(I heart the buckmark) but I bought a target model MKIII for a bit more cash...but boy does it have a fine trigger...it is as good as any stock 1911 I have ever fired.

So get the Target Ruger MK III and and a non-marking punch. You prolly have everythang else already. I wouldn't kick a Buckmark outta bed but if I could only have one it would be the Mark III Target. Skip the 22/45. The standard MK III Target feels like an old friend everytime I pick it up. 41 ounces FTW
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:14   #43
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Just to show the ease of disassembly of the Buckmark.
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Old 04-23-2012, 18:57   #44
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I have a Mark iii target.
I love it. Love.
Comes with high viz sights and five replacements.
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Old 04-23-2012, 22:27   #45
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:23   #46
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I know this question gets asked more than any other. I've had the Neos and did not like it. The 22A is too much like the Neos for me. I just simply cannot decide between the Buck Mark or Ruger. No advantage to either on shooting, both do nicely on the range. Biggest thing now is I can actually find a Ruger where as the Buck Mark locally is like a unicorn. When all is said and done, I am a reliability guy. Nothing drives me more insane than a gun that has issues. I will be shooting the blue box Federal Champion 525 stuff exclusively since I got thousands of rounds of this stuff, so if anyone had issues with either on of these firearms with that ammo please let me know. I am not going out and buying fancy CCI ammo to fit the gun. The gun needs to eat Federal Champion 525 like candy. Anyone got any experience? Thanks


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All three are very high quality pistols, and it's hard to go wrong with either one.
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Old 04-25-2012, 17:03   #47
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Buckmark.

I've had my "camper" model since 1998 and it's seen thousands of rounds, many many boxes of bulk ammo. I works perfectly, with the exception of the occasional bad round since I shoot 99.999% cheap bulk ammo. I put a Tactical Solutions barrel on it and it too has been flawless.

The gun is scary accurate, even with cheapo ammo. I couldn't more highly recommend the Buckmark.

(I don't usually use the thingy on the end...but a suppressor would work mighty nicely...)
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Old 04-25-2012, 17:27   #48
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I prefer the Buckmark myself. Like the bolt/slide setup better as well as the overall ergonomics. Plus no gigantic LCI.

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Old 04-26-2012, 17:18   #49
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I had the MKIII out last week for a shooting session, but after nearly getting shot by some dbag. I gave up do be having the jitters.

I did get to run it through it's paces this morning though.
Today makes it close to the 1500 round count and 1000 without a gun induced malfunction. Nor an ammo malfunction for that matter. That's good considering she was a problem child before it was tricked out.
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I had the MKIII out last week for a shooting session, but after nearly getting shot by some dbag. I gave up do be having the jitters.
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That really sucks. I have had this happen a few times, the most serious ones have been by the totally clueless girlfriends brought to the range by their moron boyfriends on a date. I feel the range officer supervision (or lack thereof) was to blame for this and now I go to a place that is very strict and controlled, at least for my indoor shooting.
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