[G19G20]

Funny watching GTPI posters who only a couple months ago were yelling about how Paul had no chance and was an afterthought, or whatever, now seeing the writing on the wall regarding delegates and getting just plain sour and angry about it.

[Glocksanity]

Originally Posted by G-19

If by some miracle Paul was to get the nomination, I will vote a third party or do a write in.

After reading the comments made by his supporters there is no way I could support him.

And if some Glock owners say stupid things are you going to sell your Glocks and vow never to own any more?

That is just silly logic. Heck, it is probably some COINTELPRO guys on forums writing that stuff.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by G19G20

Funny watching GTPI posters who only a couple months ago were yelling about how Paul had no chance and was an afterthought, or whatever, now seeing the writing on the wall regarding delegates and getting just plain sour and angry about it.

Are you kidding? This is fun to watch. But I really don't like any of them very much. The Paul strategy is still likely to come up short of him getting the nomination, but it adds a little excitement to a race that is pretty much over before I get a say in it. The only person you want to make nervous is Mittens.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Glocksanity

And if some Glock owners say stupid things are you going to sell your Glocks and vow never to own any more?

That is just silly logic. Heck, it is probably some COINTELPRO guys on forums writing that stuff.

G-19 has a semi-valid point. The president doesn't go to Washington alone. Who he surrounds himself with would be an issue.

Casting a vote is an individual sport. People can play it any way they want, for whatever reasons they want, and since you can't stop them, why worry about it?

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by lancesorbenson

Yeah because we need to lock more people up. G19's job is safe. The land of the free incarcerates more people than any other country.

Other than the petty drug users and a few other petty issues, I think that's a sign of success. I think we need to make room though, for the really bad guys, so should either start building more prisons, or decriminalize marijuana. Just a superficial thought. There would be a lot of details to get public support for that.

[Goaltender66]

Originally Posted by G19G20

Funny watching GTPI posters who only a couple months ago were yelling about how Paul had no chance and was an afterthought, or whatever, now seeing the writing on the wall regarding delegates and getting just plain sour and angry about it.

You're still trying to make that sale?



Paul's delegate strategery is just a way to keep the dupes thinking that they are accomplishing something.

[PawDog]

Anyone who decries taxpayers funds being used to incarcerate convicted criminals should go ahead and volunteer to house a few in their own home.

So, how many child molesters, serial killers, and rapists are you each willing to take home with you today?

[Bren]

Originally Posted by G-19

If by some miracle Paul was to get the nomination, I will vote a third party or do a write in.

Then, as I have said to the people who would vote Paul as a 3rd party candidate - your vote will go to help Obama get reelected, same as voting "Obama."

I'll be voting Republican, because only the Republican can beat Obama. Make Nancy Pelosi the Republican candidate and I'll vote for her.

After reading the comments made by his supporters there is no way I could support him. Anyone who's supporters advocate letting people starve, wish people would lose their jobs, etc is not a person I could vote for.

Sounds like you were probably going to vote Democrat anyhow, so it makes sense.

[Snowman92D]

Originally Posted by PawDog

Anyone who decries taxpayers funds being used to incarcerate convicted criminals should go ahead and volunteer to house a few in their own home.

If RP gets elected to the Oval Office we won't need jails. Everybody knows that once drugs are legalized there won't be any crime.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

If RP gets elected to the Oval Office we won't need jails. Everybody knows that once drugs are legalized there won't be any crime.

Just a small step farther, if we make everything legal, there won't be any crime.

[Snowman92D]

Correct...that's the beauty of anarchy.

[ChuteTheMall]

If Ron Paul wins this nomination, I absolutely guarantee that unicorns will poop rainbows of skittles on every street in America;


and UFOs will land in DC and the aliens will carry cookbooks;
and zombies will re-elect 0bama with Demonrat majorities in both the Senate and the House;
and Glock will produce a single-stack 9mm in addition to a carbine.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

Correct...that's the beauty of anarchy.

The fantasy of anarchy is pretty, the reality is a loss of freedom and it's downright ugly. If anarchy was the answer, Somalia would be utopia.

True anarchy lasts mere moments, then people start organizing. A couple of friends get together, then gangs form, then tribes with their warlords form. It's human nature.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by G-19

Man, you really hate paying taxes don't you. How else are cops, firemen, correction officers going to receive pay if it was not for taxes? Are you really that out of touch?

And who else will their unions negotiate with if not the citizens?

You say that the states should make their own laws. Well, my state passed laws that taxes people of the state to pay for me to secure convicted felons so they are not loose on the streets, there by protecting those citizens of this state. Now, you say I am wrong. Why? It is the states choice, aren't you for state rights?

Chances are, if Paul would win, adhere to the Constitution and leave drug regulation to the states, we would need far fewer of you corrections officers.

Perhaps that is one of the key reasons you are so vehemently opposed to Paul? The current drug laws are what keep you employed.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by PawDog

Anyone who decries taxpayers funds being used to incarcerate convicted criminals should go ahead and volunteer to house a few in their own home.

So, how many child molesters, serial killers, and rapists are you each willing to take home with you today?

How much are you paying?

If it is enough, I'll take them and build my own prison. Private guards.

We can return the balance to the government.

[Cavalry Doc]

Does everyone at least agree that the truly bad guys should be locked up? The Madoff's, rapists, burglars and violent ones should be locked up. Maybe not the potheads and jaywalkers, but the ones that cannot behave without injuring others, I'm thinking they need to be removed from society.

[Ruble Noon]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Does everyone at least agree that the truly bad guys should be locked up? The Madoff's, rapists, burglars and violent ones should be locked up. Maybe not the potheads and jaywalkers, but the ones that cannot behave without injuring others, I'm thinking they need to be removed from society.

Permanently.

[Glocksanity]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

G-19 has a semi-valid point. The president doesn't go to Washington alone. Who he surrounds himself with would be an issue.

Casting a vote is an individual sport. People can play it any way they want, for whatever reasons they want, and since you can't stop them, why worry about it?

The point is that G-19 didn't want to support RP because what some of RP's supposed followers were saying. Well, there are crazies that support everything and everybody and by that logic, nothing or no one is supportable. I am criticizing the logic, not the vote.

If he doesn't want to vote for RP because he thinks RP is a crazy and will surround himself with other crazies, then I can respect his decision. But to not vote for RP because some internet crazies that claim to like RP say some stupid things? That logic is not reasonable in my mind.

[geo57]

Originally Posted by G19G20

Funny watching GTPI posters who only a couple months ago were yelling about how Paul had no chance and was an afterthought, or whatever, now seeing the writing on the wall regarding delegates and getting just plain sour and angry about it.

I never yelled it, but I'm still calmly saying Paul has no chance. Sour and angry about this ? I can assure you I'm not about this subject. Amused maybe though. Since this wall writing is so clear to you that you feel he does have a chance, if you'd care to make a friendly wager on him winning the GOP nomination, gentleman's honor, feel free to pm me or email me so we can set up the terms .

[lancesorbenson]

Originally Posted by PawDog

Anyone who decries taxpayers funds being used to incarcerate convicted criminals should go ahead and volunteer to house a few in their own home.

So, how many child molesters, serial killers, and rapists are you each willing to take home with you today?

I assume your talking about me. I never said criminals shouldn't be locked up. I've pointed out to G19 that his paycheck is derived from money taken from those who go out and produce. He has equated being paid with taxpayers money to working for the private sector, saying that the latter are just sucking off the teat of their bosses. It was an insane argument.

Having said that, the group of offenders you mentioned make up a relatively small percentage of the prison population. I'd like those non-violent offenders to be out sooner to make sure there's plenty of room for the violent offenders. Of course, roughly half are incarcerated for drugs to the tune of nearly $30,000 a year a piece. This is something that will ultimately have to change.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the death penalty used a little more prodigiously. Child molestors come to mind.

[beforeobamabans]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Personally, I'll be voting for Paul in the primary,

You have got to be kidding! After all the anti-Paul crap you've posted here?

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Glocksanity

The point is that G-19 didn't want to support RP because what some of RP's supposed followers were saying. Well, there are crazies that support everything and everybody and by that logic, nothing or no one is supportable. I am criticizing the logic, not the vote.

If he doesn't want to vote for RP because he thinks RP is a crazy and will surround himself with other crazies, then I can respect his decision. But to not vote for RP because some internet crazies that claim to like RP say some stupid things? That logic is not reasonable in my mind.

Mostly agreed. But I can guarantee you that some people have been turned off by supporters of Paul. Stuff happens, even if we may not think that is logical, and oh well, we'll have to get over it.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

The fantasy of anarchy is pretty, the reality is a loss of freedom and it's downright ugly. If anarchy was the answer, Somalia would be utopia.

True anarchy lasts mere moments, then people start organizing. A couple of friends get together, then gangs form, then tribes with their warlords form. It's human nature.

Exactly right - Somalia doesn't have anarchy, it just has a tribal/warlord rule. Not the same at all.

However, what does that have to do with Ron Paul? He doesn't advocate anything like anarchy - just a government that leans more toward freedom than government control. He doesn't advocate getting rid of laws that protect people from each other.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Mostly agreed. But I can guarantee you that some people have been turned off by supporters of Paul. Stuff happens, even if we may not think that is logical, and oh well, we'll have to get over it.

I'll give you that - Ron Paul is the "Open Carry" of political candidates...the only thing wrong with him is that nobody wants to be identified with some of the more visible nuts talking about him in public.

[G-19]

Doc, you are the only sensible RP supporter on this site. Good to know they are not all nuts.