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Old 05-10-2012, 05:41   #51
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My Lightweight Commander XSE was out the door for $950 brand new. I think that for another $400, I could have Colt or somebody done a few things to the Commander to make it the equivalence of the Dan Wesson.
Wrong. Hold the two side by side. Adding checkering or chainlink etc. to the frontstrap and good set of sights, which would cost about $400, doesn't make the Colt come close to what DW is putting out these days. Colt fell off the wagon many years ago and unfortunately will never make it back on. They build a great, but very over priced base gun. And that's about it. When you buy a Colt these days, you're just paying for the name.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:51   #52
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I think that for another $400, I could have Colt or somebody done a few things to the Commander to make it the equivalence of the Dan Wesson.



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Old 05-10-2012, 11:43   #53
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DW is made in the US.
Methinks that the frame and slide are from a wee bit further East.
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Wrong. Hold the two side by side. Adding checkering or chainlink etc. to the frontstrap and good set of sights, which would cost about $400, doesn't make the Colt come close to what DW is putting out these days. Colt fell off the wagon many years ago and unfortunately will never make it back on. They build a great, but very over priced base gun. And that's about it. When you buy a Colt these days, you're just paying for the name.
A good set of sights? The XSE comes with Novak's.

Checkering? Why? Does the gun need it?

I'm talking about Dan Wesson has better fit than Colt, and that can be remedied by spending $400 on the Colt to have the slide and frame tightened up.

Of course, I'm sure that Colt could do the same from the factory, if they were to jack the price up to Dan Wesson's level.

Get a Dan Wesson of similar price to the Colt and then compare.
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I own both and would pick the DW CCO over the Colt CCO. The DW just has better features for me and the CCO is the best 1911 DW makes. I carry the DW CCO almost daily.

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Cool holster, I have some nice holsters but none of them work better than the Talon.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:44   #57
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Cool holster, I have some nice holsters but none of them work better than the Talon.
I certainly agree. Easy on and off, the nylon clip doesn't loose it's tension like a steel clip, and it rides at just the right height for me.
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:50   #58
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I've had a few Colts in 1911 and while they are solid guns they just don't compare to the DW CCO.

The fit, finish, feel... for me the DW just hit the sweet spot for a CCO. Carry all day and never notice it is even there.

While both guns will out shoot me, I'm more accurate with the DW.

Of all the guns I own the DW CCO is one I would never sell.
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I certainly agree. Easy on and off, the nylon clip doesn't loose it's tension like a steel clip, and it rides at just the right height for me.
You've had steel clips loose tension? I have several steel clip holsters and the clips are still super tight.
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Old 04-03-2014, 13:11   #60
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DW is a much better gun than the Colt.

Better workmanship, better parts, better sights, better cs if you ever need it.
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DW is a much better gun than the Colt.

Better workmanship, better parts, better sights, better cs if you ever need it.
Don't forget to mention higher price too.

You don't get something for nothing.
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Don't forget to mention higher price too.

You don't get something for nothing.
And when you take the Colt and upgraded with parts it will be Wayover the cost of a Dan Wesson.
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And when you take the Colt and upgraded with parts it will be Wayover the cost of a Dan Wesson.
Maybe, maybe not. The Colt doesn't need any upgrade. It's fine as is.


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Maybe, maybe not. The Colt doesn't need any upgrade. It's fine as is.


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I'm not a fan of plastic MSH's.
I like night sights on a carry/duty gun.

That right there eats up the difference in price of the cheaper Colt.

Then you add up fit and finish, and the finish of the CCO....

Them you are talking buying a Colt and sending I off with a check for $1,500 to a custom shop.
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Maybe, maybe not. The Colt doesn't need any upgrade. It's fine as is.


Sights
Main spring housing
Checkered front strap
Refinish

Yes,......it needs upgrades!
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First off, I'm not a Dan Wesson fan.

However, the fit and finish of the DW CCO does place it above the Colt.
The DW is the clear winner between these two.
Same here. I'd go with the Colt if it cost the same or more. I can't believe anybody would pay $300 more for the Dan Wesson.

As for the OP - an extra $300 for a safety that take $50 and 5 minutes to change (not that I recommend a bigger thumb safety - I do not, unless the gun is just for range paper punching).
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Sights
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Refinish

Yes,......it needs upgrades!
Yeah, what good would a gun be without a refinish?

Seems like most times when I see your posts, I have to ask myself whether you really own guns or you are one of those kids playing an internet character.
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:51   #68
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Yeah, what good would a gun be without a refinish?

Seems like most times when I see your posts, I have to ask myself whether you really own guns or you are one of those kids playing an internet character.
Yea,.......what ever. Unless a stainless Colt is bought a refinish is in order after a front strap checkering. Or can you not figure that out yourself?
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Yeah, what good would a gun be without a refinish?

Seems like most times when I see your posts, I have to ask myself whether you really own guns or you are one of those kids playing an internet character.



That wasn't very nice.
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Yes,......it needs upgrades!
Why? The gun doesn't function without these upgrades?


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Why? The gun doesn't function without these upgrades?
It will function just fine,......but would suit MY needs/wants better with the added upgrades.
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That wasn't very nice.
He's a lawyer,......what do you expect? There is his opinion and there are all the other opinions.
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It will function just fine,......but would suit MY needs/wants better with the added upgrades.
Everyone is entitled to their own aesthetics preference.

However the Colt CCO is good to go as is.

Also I'd like to see a performance co
Parison between the Colt and the DW: mechanical accuracy, practical accuracy and reliability. Then we can see of the DW is actually better

Just FYI for those who aren't M1911 nuts, Colt invented the CCO concept.


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Everyone is entitled to their own aesthetics preference.

However the Colt CCO is good to go as is.

Also I'd like to see a performance co
Parison between the Colt and the DW: mechanical accuracy, practical accuracy and reliability. Then we can see of the DW is actually better

Just FYI for those who aren't M1911 nuts, Colt invented the CCO concept.

That would be a great idea. Would love to see a 3-4K round test between the both with accuracy and reliability tracked.
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I had been wanting a CCO style 1911 for awhile but when I was ready to buy, it seemed like there were no Dan Wesson CCO's to be had.

Gunsite was having a sale on their Colt CCO's so I decided to get one.

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