[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by void *

If you really believe this, why aren't you a theist, rather than labeling yourself an agnostic?



*All* of the odds arguments are invalid, because we do not have all of the information required to actually calculate a real probability (we don't, for instance, know the actual number of trials involved. With a sufficient number of trials, even long odds can become near certainty.).

Also, as an aside: a neat thought experiment: Take a deck of cards. Shuffle it well (take your time). Draw a card and write it down until you've written down all the cards. The odds of you getting the specific fifty-two card order you got are one in eight times ten to the power of 67 ... or eight with 67 zeros after it. Yet every single time you shuffle up and draw fifty-two cards, you hit an order that has that probability of being hit. (It is also true that the order you draw has, in all likelihood, never, ever been drawn by anyone else, ever).

I see both as equally possible. So it's easy to be an agnostic for me. I don't see any reason to pick sides.

What are the odds of all of the elements present in a human being being in the correct sequence and in the correct position in the human body to make a human? Don't forget that certain structures are required that have effect on distant tissues that would be incompatible with life without their influence. The odds boggle the mind, but maybe we are just ignorant and simple beings, incapable of really understanding reality.

The only thing for certain, is that it is what it is, and it is because it is, whether a deity was involved or not. We are what we are, where we are, and when we are.

I find the mystery to be acceptable. Some have a need to believe that they know, and so through faith, choose to believe one way or the other.

It's still possible.