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Old 11-15-2010, 16:17   #41
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So there I was, loading 45, minding my own business when it hit me. I had just crimped the 200th round of 45 @ 5.3gr W231. With (10) 180gr JHP's that had been homeless for months, and the uniflow set at 5.3gr, I loaded them up. It ended up being a nice, soft shooting, accurate little bunny fart load. This load also cycled my 24# spring just fine, the brass dropped right at my feet. Normally I'm not a big fan of these kinds of loads, but this one may grow on me...


Sea Level, 65* F
6" LWD Barrel
Wolff 24# Spring
1.26 OAL
Winchester 231
CCI300 Primers
Starline Brass

5.3gr
953
956
944
941
942
945
952
940
953
957
Ave: 948
ES: 17
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:49   #42
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Anyone have any new updated info on wsf powder?
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Old 06-05-2012, 17:10   #43
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Tried the WSF. It didn’t get the performance of the others, but it was remarkably consistent, night and day to BD on both.


180 fmj, cci 300, 1.260, full turn Lee fcd. She smiled in a stock 20 at 8.6gn, 1160 fps, 25es, 5 shots, 1 smile. At 8.2gn I got 1110 fps 18es, 5 shots
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Old 03-03-2013, 00:12   #44
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Not a lot of you guys get too excited about exploring the other end of the G20 performance envelope, but I have been recently playing around with soft shooting stuff.

I think I might have found loads that would be great gamer loads for those inclined to shoot 10mm. This is still a ways above minimum PF for IDPA SSP, but much softer shooting than what I normally run. The top load below makes major PF. All of the below rounds cycled my G20 flawlessly and grouped very well @ 15 yard. The first load was a tad more dirty than the others.

Powerbond 180 FP
Winchester Super Field (WSF)
CCI 300
Mixed brass (mostly Starline)
1.25" COL
Temp: 60F

8 shot strings

5.7 grains:
Average velocity: 860
H/L Spread: 72
PF: 155

5.9 grains:
Average velocity: 890
H/L Spread: 52
PF: 160

6.1 grains:
Average velocity: 918
H/L Spread: 64
PF: 165

6.2 grains:
Average velocity: 928
H/L Spread: 51
PF: 167

WSF meters quite well. Thanks to Freakshow10mm for helpful insight about WSF. I'm going to set the Uniflow at 6.1 grains. That seemed to be about the sweet spot.

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Old 03-03-2013, 00:16   #45
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Thanks for the post, Taterhead...

I've always been interested in great loads for target/plinking/hunting/gaming for the 10mm... And actually, they were out of my normal HP38/W231 last time I went for powder so I got a pound of WSF, too.

I use 6.5gr WSF under a 180gr pill and its quite accurate. Unsure if it or HP38 is more accurate but I very much like both powders.
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Old 03-03-2013, 00:25   #46
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Thanks for the post, Taterhead...

I've always been interested in great loads for target/plinking/hunting/gaming for the 10mm... And actually, they were out of my normal HP38/W231 last time I went for powder so I got a pound of WSF, too.

I use 6.5gr WSF under a 180gr pill and its quite accurate. Unsure if it or HP38 is more accurate but I very much like both powders.
Hi Nick.

Curious, what are your velocities with 6.5 grains?

I have been curious to see how slow I can get and still cycle the stock G20 with 17 pound spring.
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Old 03-03-2013, 00:27   #47
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Hi Nick.

Curious, what are your velocities with 6.5 grains?

I have been curious to see how slow I can get and still cycle the stock G20 with 17 pound spring.
Jack, I've got no idea on the velocity. Haven't had a check to chrony any of my 231/WSF loads yet. I'll post here when I do. I'm guessing velocity at 1000fps+ from my 6" Fusion
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:44   #48
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if you want LIGHT loads, try WST under a 200gr bullet
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Old 06-29-2013, 15:24   #49
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Ran some handloads through the new G20 Gen4, and here is my Winchester data.

Glock 20 Gen4 (stock)
80 degrees outside, 1000 ft elevation.
1x PMC brass, CCI LP primers. Velocities are averages.

180gr PD FMJ, 7.0gr WSF @ 1.250": 1,092 fps (11 fps ES! 6 fps SD)

180gr PD FMJ, 7.8gr AutoComp @ 1.250": 1,176 fps (51 fps ES)

200gr Rainier RNFP, 6.2gr WSF @ 1.250": 987 fps (31 fps ES)

200gr Rainier RNFP, 7.0gr Auto Comp @ 1.250": 1,088 fps (22 fps ES!)

More or less my goal was to get a plinking 10mm round that isn't full powered yet is still more than typical .40 level loads. My target was a 180gr between 1100-1150 fps and a 200gr between 1050-1100 fps. I succeeded!
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Old 08-18-2013, 12:28   #50
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Gen4 Glock 20 10mm (stock gun, 1x PMC brass, WIN LP primers):

180gr Z-cast, 7.0gr WSF @ 1.260": 1,141 fps (16 fps ES)

Nice load and accurate too from the stock G20. Some leading so I wouldn't advise shooting hundreds without a cleaning in between, but not the worst leading I've seen either.
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Old 09-01-2013, 14:29   #51
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Glock 20 Gen4 bone stock. Around 75-80 degrees out and humid.

200gr Missouri Steeler, 7.0gr AutoComp @ 1.250" (1x PMC, Win LP): 1,147 fps (14 fps ES)

Nicely consistent but a fairly smokey too.
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Old 11-20-2013, 18:28   #52
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I've got 5lbs of WST to use, and I was hoping to find a good mild load to put me just over the "major" threshold for USPSA in 10mm. I've got mostly 165fmj and a few hundred 135gr.

I found this data (apparently in an old manual)

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WST -----------------------------MAX FPS
150gr JHP 5.5 to 7.0 34,000 1190
155gr JHP 5.0 to 8.0 31,900 1220
170gr lead 5.0 32,100 1020
170gr JHP 4.5 to 5.5 29,500 1020
180gr JHP 5.0 to 5.5 35,200 1010
190gr FMJ 4.5 26,700 850
200gr lead 3.8 to 5.0 32,400 940
200gr FMJ 4.6 35,600 890

Data reproduced from 14th edition Winchester Reloading Manual
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And the following from handloads.com

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150gr JHP 7.0 gr WST 1,190 fps Winchester
Suggested starting load: 6.3 gr
Pressure: 34,000 PSI


155gr JHP 8.0 gr WST 1,220 fps Winchester
Suggested starting load: 7.2 gr
Pressure: 31,900 PSI

170gr JHP 5.5 gr WST 1,020 fps Winchester
Suggested starting load: 5.0 gr
Pressure: 29,500 PSI

180gr JHP 5.5 gr WST 1,010 fps Winchester
Suggested starting load: 5.0 gr
Pressure: 35,200 PSI


200gr Lead 5.0 gr WST 940 fps Winchester
Suggested starting load: 4.5 gr
Pressure: 32,400 PSI
Looks like it's probably from the manual too.

Posted partially for my own notekeeping. I hope to get started on this soon!
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:39   #53
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Through the Gen4 Glock 20 (stock)

A chilly 20 degrees outside, but sunny.

(1x PMC, FED LP) 180gr PD FMJ, 5.2gr WST @ 1.250": 874 fps avg (19 fps ES)

(1x PMC, FED LP) 180gr PD FMJ, 5.5gr WST @ 1.250": 966 fps avg (10 fps ES)
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